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From: "Scott Preece" <sepreece@gmail.com>
To: "Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Alessandro Di Marco" <dmr@gmx.it>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vojtech@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] System Inactivity Monitor v1.0
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:34:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b69d1470701231134k4e3e8a4dj2b95a230fa3da81c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070123163442.GA18662@elf.ucw.cz>

On 1/23/07, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> Hi1
> ...
> >
>
> >    But I still believe it can be out.
> >
> > Do you believe it could be a user-space daemon or what?
>
> Yes, what prevents userspace daemon watching /dev/input/event* to
> provide this functionality?
>                                                                         Pavel
---

One possible argument is to allow integrating "input-like" user events
with other kinds of system-level events that you might want to have
treated like user activity. For instance, our definition of user
activity includes: button presses, opening-closing the cover (on a
phone), and plugging in or removing memory cards, accessories, or
cables. We actually use a mix of kernel and user-space monitoring,
today, but would prefer an integrated monitor.

A user-space monitor also has more opportunity for races - for
instance, deciding that the inactivity timeout has occurred between
the time that the user does something and the time that the kernel
gets a notification up to user space.

My own hot button is making sure that the definition of what
constitutes user activity is managed in exactly one place, whether in
the kernel or not. My naive model would be to put the response at user
level, but to provide a single point of definition in the kernel (say,
/dev/useractivity or the equivalent) that the user-level daemon could
listen to.

scott

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-23 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-18 19:29 Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-19  7:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-19 14:49   ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-19 17:45     ` Scott Preece
2007-01-19 22:21       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-19 22:30         ` Scott Preece
2007-01-19 10:11 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-21 21:04   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-23  9:38     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-22 12:46   ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-23  9:41     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-23 14:14       ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-23 16:34         ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-23 17:11           ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-23 18:44             ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-24  2:51               ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-26 17:15                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-26 17:55                   ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-27 17:45                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-27 19:20                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-01-29 13:58                         ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-29 22:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-29 22:42                             ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-30  0:03                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-30  9:42                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-01-30 12:33                                 ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-30 13:09                                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-01-30 15:22                                     ` Alessandro Di Marco
2009-01-27  0:52                                 ` [PATCH] input: Activity counters Alessandro Di Marco
2009-01-27  0:54                                 ` Alessandro Di Marco
2009-01-27  0:54                                 ` Alessandro Di Marco
2009-01-27  0:54                                 ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-29  8:24                       ` [ANNOUNCE] System Inactivity Monitor v1.0 Stefan Seyfried
2007-01-24 18:08               ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-23 19:01           ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-23 19:02             ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-23 20:07               ` Mattia Dongili
2007-01-23 19:34           ` Scott Preece [this message]
2007-01-24  2:02             ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-24 14:01             ` Pavel Machek
2007-01-19 21:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-20 15:37   ` Alessandro Di Marco
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2007-01-25 12:28             ` Bodo Eggert
2007-01-25 15:18               ` Scott Preece
2007-01-25 15:43                 ` Alessandro Di Marco
2007-01-25 16:03                   ` Scott Preece

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