From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932127AbdKNVQ0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:16:26 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f47.google.com ([209.85.214.47]:56886 "EHLO mail-it0-f47.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932102AbdKNVQR (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:16:17 -0500 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbJ6DG8QysPtp56WSQhNhoCpao/xWfWa0KPC93vKsA3X/VaOaLGfk/I8BmbCvVWcG3va33Uug== Subject: Re: [GIT pull] printk updates for 4.15 To: Linus Torvalds , Thomas Gleixner Cc: Petr Mladek , LKML , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , Peter Zijlstra , Andrew Morton , Prarit Bhargava , Sergey Senozhatsky , Steven Rostedt References: <20171114100336.uil744pxmbsawq63@pathway.suse.cz> From: Mark Salyzyn Message-ID: <7d23f705-1479-7874-7918-f2af9ec02c86@android.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:16:14 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/14/2017 01:07 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > But all of this is entirely separate from the "changing from one clock > that has small issues for good reasons to FOUR DIFFERENT CLOCKS THAT > THE USER CHOOSES RANDOMLY". User is _root_ (assuming default perms for nodes), not some random user. At least on an embedded Android platform, the only root user is init(8), so it can becomes a system boot time decision only. > See my objection? > > One is "let's improve the clock". > > The other is "let's do something crazy and idiotic". If configured and enabled, let's allow an embedded device the rights to chose the clock timebase for the ultimate in synchronization to other activities on the system (correlate with user space log timebase). -- Mark