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Miller" , Larry Finger , , , , , linuxppc-dev References: <20231010155444.858483-1-arnd@kernel.org> <2023101051-unmasked-cleaver-79b3@gregkh> <87y1g94szz.fsf@kernel.org> <2023101139-pyromania-game-2237@gregkh> <87r0m1fwg9.fsf@kernel.org> <20231011080955.1beeb010@kernel.org> <87sf6g2hc8.fsf@kernel.org> <63e57ef8-c9f2-489a-8df8-51dcffd437c6@app.fastmail.com> <39719eae-f166-4059-a70d-c6b74ecd46e2@infradead.org> <2fb4f151-9146-4cce-a3e6-ca80a95cf590@app.fastmail.com> <789449f63ff6175ff46951507c03753f4430aa85.camel@sipsolutions.net> From: Jeff Johnson In-Reply-To: <789449f63ff6175ff46951507c03753f4430aa85.camel@sipsolutions.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.80.80.8] X-ClientProxiedBy: nasanex01a.na.qualcomm.com (10.52.223.231) To nalasex01a.na.qualcomm.com (10.47.209.196) X-QCInternal: smtphost X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=5800 signatures=585085 X-Proofpoint-GUID: fiO2b6PTY8GstS0iygVw6A7oxrwtgyNF X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: fiO2b6PTY8GstS0iygVw6A7oxrwtgyNF X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.272,Aquarius:18.0.980,Hydra:6.0.619,FMLib:17.11.176.26 definitions=2023-10-18_18,2023-10-18_01,2023-05-22_02 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=972 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1011 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2309180000 definitions=main-2310180169 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 10/13/2023 11:02 AM, Johannes Berg wrote: > On Fri, 2023-10-13 at 17:44 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023, at 18:36, Geoff Levand wrote: >>> On 10/12/23 17:41, Johannes Berg wrote: >>>> But seriously - is it worth to try to keep a wireless driver for it if >>>> we don't even know anyone using a PS3 at all? >>> >>> There is still a considerable user base for the PS3, so we >>> must keep the ps3-gelic-wireless driver. >> >> Do you know if anyone has tried changing this driver over to the >> cfg80211 interface from the wireless extensions? > > I looked at that yesterday, and sadly I _think_ it's not even possible, > there are some corner cases in it like "no WPA2" that don't seem to be > fully covered in cfg80211/nl80211, at least not with the APIs today and > with current versions of wpa_supplicant. > > It might still be doable because things like > WPA_DRIVER_CAPA_KEY_MGMT_WPA2_PSK don't really seem to be used much in > wpa_supplicant, but we'd have to carefully test that I guess. > > Also, it depends on the PS3 firmware version whether or not that's > supported. > > Then again, arguably wifi without WPA2 is pretty much useless these > days? This is a good point. It doesn't matter if the clients work if there are no Access Points to connect to. And if you do have an old one you can connect to, it will be an insecure connection. Wardriving, anyone? /jeff