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From: Julian Braha <julianbraha@gmail.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Jones <andrew.jones@linux.dev>
Cc: andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nathan@kernel.org, nsc@kernel.org,
	rdunlap@infradead.org, tfiga@chromium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] kconfig: add kconfig-sym-check static checker
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2026 13:28:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e416a8a-d7f0-4dc6-b279-f7848b89df31@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajtPk6gz8bd4bsxy@google.com>

On 6/24/26 04:34, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> OK, maybe they are not similar, as Julian pointed out.  Makes
> we wonder is there any benefit in moving this functionality
> into kconfig (which is the tool that deals with Kconfig files).

Agreed, it would be ideal if the check could be part of the kconfig
interpeter.

However...

Linux does a funky thing with its architecture handling in kconfig:
it looks up the architecture from a makefile variable and uses that to
resolve a kconfig file import in 'arch/Kconfig'.

This means e.g. when evaluating the kconfig on an x86 machine, all of
the config options in the RISC-V kconfig are never reached, thus never
parsed, and never added to the symbol table. As far as the interpeter is
aware, any reference to, say, RISCV_SBI is a dead reference on x86.

Yet, options throughout the kernel can reference arch-specific options.
Try searching in menuconfig for the RISCV-only option HVC_RISCV_SBI on
x86, and you'll successfully find it, because it's defined in 'drivers/'
(not downstream of arch/Kconfig). Then try searching for its dependency,
RISCV_SBI. Apparently it doesn't exist? In my opinion, this should also
be considered a bug in the frontend...

All this is to say, until architectures are restructured in kconfig,
alarming on unknown options would output 99% noise.

- Julian Braha

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-24 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-23  7:49 Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-06-23 15:18 ` Andrew Jones
2026-06-23 15:25   ` Julian Braha
2026-06-23 16:10     ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-06-24  3:29     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-06-24  3:27   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-06-24  3:34     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-06-24 12:28       ` Julian Braha [this message]
2026-06-25  3:43         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-05-27 14:27 Andrew Jones
2026-06-02 13:05 ` Nicolas Schier
2026-06-09 23:46 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-06-10 16:00   ` Andrew Jones
2026-06-10 22:49     ` Nathan Chancellor

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