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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>
To: phasta@kernel.org, "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)" <malhyuk97@gmail.com>,
	matthew.brost@intel.com, dakr@kernel.org
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mdaenzer@redhat.com, alessio.belle@imgtec.com,
	luigi.santivetti@imgtec.com, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] drm/sched: cache the timeline name to fix a use-after-free
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 11:34:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e98c872-6eff-4eb5-b53b-aedaf0fcc7ff@ursulin.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47464619-890d-484f-986b-9a6c06cd89b0@ursulin.net>


On 07/09/2026 11:28, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 07/09/2026 10:42, Philipp Stanner wrote:
>> On Mon, 2026-09-07 at 10:15 +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/09/2026 20:06, Philipp Stanner wrote:
>>>
>>> 8><
>>>
>>>> If you can think of a stupid and simple solution, shoot. The only thing
>>>> I can think of is moving the string into the dma_fence, as a hard copy
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time, my proposal is to keep aiming for removing
>>>> sched_fence->ops->release and fixing pvr and amdgpu.
>>>
>>> Fixing the drivers sounds like an obvious thing to try indeed. Along the
>>> same lines as it was done for xe and panthor. It is an already
>>> established and well understood approach so shouldn't be controversial.
>>> After that we can discuss in leisurely pace if something better is
>>> possible in the scheduler core.
>>>
>>> I understand its amdxdna, nouveau, and msm. Was it attempted so far? Is
>>> it significantly more complicated than it was for panthor and xe?
>>
>> How did the others fix that?
> 
> Combination of kfree_rcu, synchronize_rcu and storing the name in an 
> object protected by those:
> 
> 6bd90e700b42 ("drm/xe: Make dma-fences compliant with the safe access 
> rules")
> 299bc6d50b1b ("drm/xe/guc: Keep scheduler timeline name alive")
> efe24898485c ("drm/panthor: fix for dma-fence safe access rules")
> 
> Not too complicated on the overall. Simply ensure RCU grace period 
> between signaling the hw fence and freeing the ops, scheduler, name, all 
> that it is in the externally accessible dereference chain.
> 
>> If we look at nouveau:
>>
>> static void
>> nouveau_sched_fini(struct nouveau_sched *sched)
>> {
>>   struct drm_gpu_scheduler *drm_sched = &sched->base;
>>   struct drm_sched_entity *entity = &sched->entity;
>>
>>   wait_event(sched->job.wq, nouveau_sched_job_list_empty(sched));
>>
>>   drm_sched_entity_fini(entity);
>>   drm_sched_fini(drm_sched);
>>
>>   /* Destroy workqueue after scheduler tear down, otherwise it might 
>> still
>>   * be in use.
>>   */
>>   if (sched->wq)
>>   destroy_workqueue(sched->wq);
>> }
>>
>>
>> We see that it
>>     1. stops accepting jobs from userspace (not visible here)
>>     2. waits until all hardware fences in this ring are signaled
>>     3. only then tears down drm_sched
> 
> I cannot do a very deep dive into nouveau at the moment. I see fence 
> itself is already freed with kfree_rcu so that's good. What is reachable 
> via the timeline name callback:
> 
>      struct nouveau_fence *fence = to_nouveau_fence(f);
>      struct nouveau_fence_chan *fctx = nouveau_fctx(fence);
> 
>      return !fctx->dead ? fctx->name : "dead channel";
> 
> Fence is presumably the fence so channel. Chagning to kfree_rcu in 
> nouveau_fence_context_put() there might be enough for that one.
> 
> For the scheduler (nouveau_sched_destroy()) the same, kfree_rcu.
> 
> That makes scheduler timeline name vfunc safe:
> 
> static const char *drm_sched_fence_get_timeline_name(struct dma_fence *f)
> {
>      struct drm_sched_fence *fence = to_drm_sched_fence(f);
>      return (const char *)fence->sched->name;
> 
> sched is then RCU protected. sched->name is already static so not a 
> concern.
> 
> As you say nouveau_sched_fini() only tears down the scheduler after 
> fences have been signaled it seems adding two new kfree_rcu make is safe.

P.S. Idea on how to test it from userspace:

https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/642709/?series=146211&rev=2

But as nouveau does not export via sync_file you would need to adapt to 
export sync_file from syncobj.

Regards,

Tvrtko


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-07 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-04  8:06 [PATCH v4 0/3] drm/sched: fix use-after-free of the fence timeline name Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)
2026-09-04  8:06 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] drm/sched: cache the timeline name to fix a use-after-free Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)
2026-09-04  8:20   ` Christian König
2026-09-04  8:31     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-04 12:49       ` Christian König
2026-09-04 19:06         ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-07  9:15           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-09-07  9:42             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-07  9:49               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-07 10:28               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-09-07 10:34                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2026-09-07 10:47                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-07 11:06                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-09-07 11:15                     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-07 12:59                       ` Christian König
2026-09-07 13:38                         ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-07 15:21                           ` Christian König
2026-09-08 10:49                             ` Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)
2026-09-08 11:07                               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-09  0:37                                 ` Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)
2026-09-09  7:44                                   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-07 12:28                     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-09-08 15:20                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-09-07 12:18               ` Alessio Belle
2026-09-07 11:42           ` Christian König
2026-09-07 11:54             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-04  8:31     ` Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)
2026-09-04  8:39       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-04  9:11         ` Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)
2026-09-04  9:07       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-09-04  9:57   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-04 10:51     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-09-04  8:06 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] drm/sched: add the fence ops-detach cleanup to the TODO list Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)
2026-09-04  8:06 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] drm/sched/tests: add a UAF regression test for the timeline name Jonghyuk Kim(MalHyuk)

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