From: Hans de Goede <johannes.goede@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: "Rong Zhang" <i@rong.moe>,
"Ali Ahmet Memiş" <aliamemis@disroot.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@kernel.org>,
Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>, Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>,
Charis Stratakis <c.stratakis@proton.me>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
acpica-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ACPI: Serialize battery methods and INT3403 _TMP
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 15:13:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ecfd94c-7083-4d76-a5f7-490ba1e650d7@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58586fa666f09c209f9d7fe8c692a8bdda6d4410.camel@rong.moe>
Hi,
On 15-Oct-26 13:45, Rong Zhang wrote:
> Hi Ali,
>
> Thanks for working on this!
>
> The series is generally in a good shape. I just have a few minor
> comments.
>
> On Wed, 2026-10-14 at 16:26 +0300, Ali Ahmet Memiş wrote:
>> As discussed in [1], add exclusive variants of acpi_evaluate_object()
>> and acpi_evaluate_integer() and use them for the battery methods and
>> INT3403 _TMP, which interleave badly on ThinkPad P1 Gen2 and P53.
>>
>> UCSI (bko221065) is not converted.
>>
>
> Please leave a link to the bko bug, so that readers don't need to
> assemble the link themselves.
>
>> There the contention is on a
>
> After carefully auditing the ASL code again, I've just found the root
> cause of the mutex acquisition timeout.
>
> It's hard to notice, but \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDER being declared as
> "Serialized" causes an ABBA deadlock:
>
> Thread 1 (battery) Thread 2 (ideapad-laptop)
> ----------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------
> serialize \_SB.BAT0._BIX serialize \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.VPC0.GBMD
> evaluate \_SB.BAT0._BIX evaluate \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.VPC0.GBMD
> acquire ECMT [A]
> serialize \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDIF serialize \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDER [B]
> evaluate \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDIF evaluate \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDER
> serialize \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDER [B] acquire ECMT [A]
>
> That's why merging battery notifications significantly reduced the
> frequency of mutex acquisition timeout.
>
>> firmware AML mutex that _Qxx EC queries also take, which a wrapper
>> around acpi_evaluate_object() cannot cover, and Rong's notification
>> merging in 7.3 already reduces it on the battery side.
>
> Lock contention is not the root cause, and EC queries and UCSI _DSM are
> just innocent victims of the ABBA deadlock.
Hmm, ok so since \_SB.BAT0._BIX takes ECMT itself instead of relying
on \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDER taking it (1), this means that not just
the ideapad-laptop GBMD method call but anything calling
\_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDER may cause this abba dead-lock, right?
Are we sure nothing else is calling \_SB.PCI0.LPC0.EC0.RDER ?
Regards,
Hans
1) I guess ACPI mutexes may be taken nested from the same thread
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-15 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-14 13:26 Ali Ahmet Memiş
2026-10-14 13:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] ACPI: utils: Add exclusive AML evaluation helpers Ali Ahmet Memiş
2026-10-14 13:39 ` Hans de Goede
2026-10-15 11:47 ` Rong Zhang
2026-10-14 13:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] ACPI: battery: Evaluate battery methods exclusively Ali Ahmet Memiş
2026-10-14 13:39 ` Hans de Goede
2026-10-15 11:48 ` Rong Zhang
2026-10-14 13:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] thermal: intel: int340x: Evaluate _TMP exclusively Ali Ahmet Memiş
2026-10-14 13:39 ` Hans de Goede
2026-10-15 11:49 ` Rong Zhang
2026-10-14 13:45 ` [PATCH 0/3] ACPI: Serialize battery methods and INT3403 _TMP Hans de Goede
2026-10-14 15:05 ` Ali Ahmet Memiş
2026-10-14 15:30 ` Hans de Goede
2026-10-14 15:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-10-15 11:51 ` Rong Zhang
2026-10-15 12:09 ` Ali Ahmet Memiş
2026-10-15 13:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-10-15 11:45 ` Rong Zhang
2026-10-15 13:13 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2026-10-15 13:48 ` Rong Zhang
2026-10-15 18:35 ` Hans de Goede
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