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From: Tancred <alex@narraduct.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <sebastian@breakpoint.cc>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	"Bill Wendling" <morbo@google.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Justin Stitt" <justinstitt@google.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Neal Gompa" <neal@gompa.dev>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"Richard Purdie" <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>, "Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>,
	"Tomas Glozar" <tglozar@kernel.org>, "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>,
	x86@kernel.org, "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] x86: Start removing X86_X32_ABI
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 20:13:55 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f315c7a-0fd1-4f7e-93bb-703d4107aa5a@narraduct.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261008-x32_removal-v4-2-d389a193c506@breakpoint.cc>



On 10/8/26 03:07, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> where certain workloads widely
> move to x32 and use it exclusively. In the meantime Debian introduced a
> patch to disable x32 by default (so it has to be enabled at boot time on
> the command line) because they are afraid of the increased attack
> surface. Fedora as far as I tell has X32 disabled (looking at 7.0-rc5
> rpm in rawhide).
> 
> Since there is practically no real use for x32

I only recently discovered x32 and built a Desktop (with all daemons and 
utilities running 10-30% smaller and some a bit faster, with 64 bit 
libraries for eg. Firefox.) My experiment should definitely not decide 
anything, but how much real-world use would be sufficient to justify 
continued presence (more complex compat code)?

If left behind a flag like Debian (like the 2014 proposal 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1415245982.3398.53.camel@decadent.org.uk/), 
there are no security risks so I understand the benefit is reduced code 
complexity and maintenance burden. Older threads critiqued the 
implementation. What's the smallest kernel support which would keep 
32-bit pointers possible? Could a small design (eg. just 32-bit pointers 
on x86-64 with i386's type layout, so no 3rd compat case (cf. MIPS n32 
and o32)) work?

- Alex Alejandre

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-10  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-08  9:07 [PATCH v4 0/2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-08  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] selftests/nolibc: remove the x32 testcase Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-08 12:15   ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-10-08  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86: Start removing X86_X32_ABI Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-08 12:15   ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-10-10  2:13   ` Tancred [this message]
2026-10-10  6:51     ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-10-10  7:28       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2026-10-10 10:55         ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-10-10  6:38   ` H. Peter Anvin

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