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From: "Peter Teoh" <htmldeveloper@gmail.com>
To: "Eric Dumazet" <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@saeurebad.de>,
	"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Tejun Heo" <htejun@gmail.com>,
	"Dipankar Sarma" <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: per cpun+ spin locks coexistence?
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:00:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <804dabb00803181000g408b8ab9oe1075952dc859823@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47DEC4F4.5010703@cosmosbay.com>

On 3/18/08, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> wrote:

>
> You are right Peter, that fs/file.c contains some leftover from previous
>  implementation of defer queue,
>  that was using a timer.
>
>  So we can probably provide a patch that :
>
>  - Use spin_lock() & spin_unlock() instead of spin_lock_bh() &
>  spin_unlock_bh() in free_fdtable_work()
>  since we dont anymore use a softirq (timer) to reschedule the workqueue.
>
>  ( this timer was deleted by the following patch :
>  http://readlist.com/lists/vger.kernel.org/linux-kernel/50/251040.html
>
>
>  But, you cannot avoid use of spin_lock()/spin_unlock() because
>  schedule_work() makes no garantee that the work will be done by this cpu.

Ah.....u have hit the nail....and combine with Johannes Weiner's
explanation, I have pieced together the full scenario:

First, the following is possible:

                fddef = &get_cpu_var(fdtable_defer_list);
                spin_lock(&fddef->lock);
                fdt->next = fddef->next;
                fddef->next = fdt;==============>executing at CPU A
                /* vmallocs are handled from the workqueue context */
                schedule_work(&fddef->wq);
                spin_unlock(&fddef->lock);==============>executing at CPU B
                put_cpu_var(fdtable_defer_list);

where the execution can switch CPU after the schedule_work() API, then
LOGICALLY u definitely need the spin_lock(), and the per_cpu data is
really not necessary.

But without the per_cpu structure, then the following "dedicated
chunk" can only execute on one processor, with the possibility of
switching to another processor after schedule_work():

So then we introduce the per_cpu structure - so that the "dedicated
chunk" can be executing on multiple processor ALL AT THE SAME TIME,
without interferring each other, as fddef are per-cpu (rightfully
owned only before schedule_work() is called, but after schedule_work()
is called, an arbitrary CPU will be executing this fddef).

spin_lock() is necessary because of the possibility of CPU switch
(schedule_work()).

and per_cpu is so that the same chunk of code can be executing at
multiple CPUs all at the same time.

Now the key issue rises up - as I have just asked before u answered my question:

http://mail.nl.linux.org/kernelnewbies/2008-03/msg00236.html

can schedule_work() sleep?   (just like schedule(), whcih can sleep right?)
schedule_work() is guaranteed to execute the work queue at least once,
and so this thread may or may not sleep. correct?   Or wrong?

Problem is when u sleep and never wake up, then the spin_lock become
permanently locked, and when later the same CPU (have to be the same
fddef CPU) is being reschedule to execute the get_cpu_var() again, it
will spin_lock() infinitely, resulting in 100% CPU utilization error.

To prevent these types of error, spin_lock are always not to be used
with to wrap around functions that can sleep, and can only containing
short routines between lock and unlock.

Is my analysis correct?

-- 
Regards,
Peter Teoh

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20  0:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 16:17 Peter Teoh
2008-03-14 17:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-16 16:30   ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-16 20:20     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-17 17:06       ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-17 17:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-17 19:22         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-18 17:00           ` Peter Teoh [this message]
2008-03-18 17:34             ` Dipankar Sarma
2008-03-18 18:00             ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-19 16:25               ` Peter Teoh

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