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From: Adam Thiede <me@adamthiede.com>
To: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@leemhuis.info>,
	Gary Bisson <bisson.gary@gmail.com>
Cc: Chun-Kuang Hu <chunkuang.hu@kernel.org>,
	Esben Haabendal <esben@geanix.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Linux kernel regressions list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/mediatek: mtk_dsi: enable hs clock during pre-enable
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2026 11:34:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <806f042f-cf40-451a-8412-eb4a5e31963f@adamthiede.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c7e81e7-28e1-4993-ac4e-724ec7664ebf@collabora.com>

On 7/27/26 10:54, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno wrote:
> On 7/27/26 16:23, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> On 7/27/26 14:48, Gary Bisson wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 02:28:56PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>> [top-posting to facilitate]
>>>>
>>>> Gary, Angelo, what's the status here? It looks like this fell through
>>>> the cracks -- or was this issue fixed in between somehow? If yes: 
>>>> great!
>>>> If not: Would be good to finally resolve this, as we are long past "fix
>>>> within a week" rule of thumb from Linus:
>>>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/handling- 
>>>> regressions.html#on-how-quickly-regressions-should-be-fixed
>>>
>>> Not much happened I'm afraid. The status as I see is:
>>> - this patch is necessary to have TI SN65DSI83 working
>>> - this patch also follows the DRM guidelines saying that HS clock must
>>>    be enabled during pre_enable (see previous answer / [1])
>>> - this patch has been successfully tested against MIPI-DSI panels (by
>>>    Angelo) and LVDS panels via TI bridge (by myself)
>>> - Adam reported an issue with another bridge (PS8640) where resume is
>>>    broken
>>> - Esben offered a patch to the TI bridge that would fix the issue we
>>>    were seeing in the first place.
>>>
>>> But for the last two points, I'm not sure this calls for a revert yet:
>>> - enabling HS clock in pre_enable still is what should be done [1]
>>> - maybe the issue Adam is facing is due to the bridge driver instead as
>>>    it could not be reproduced with another setup
>>> - Esben patch would break the SN65DSI83 init sequence, suggesting that
>>>    the culprit really is the MIPI bridge for not following the HS clock
>>>    requirement in pre_enable instead [2]
>> It's tricky, yes, but I suspect the right time for a revert was weeks
>> ago. What Linus afaics basically wants in situations like this (espe.
>> with two reporters) boils down to "something broke recently, no fix was
>> found within a week or maybe two, so we go back to the previous state to
>> restart from there -- and this is nothing bad, that's just done to buy
>> us time."
>>
>> If something is right by some hardware or DRM specs often doesn't matter
>> much. What makes this tricky is the fact that the revert might cause a
>> regression for those that relied on the functionally the change brought.
>> But I suspect even then Linus prefers a revert, as it's a recent change
>> that only went into 7.1. The quoted from Linus on this page cover this 
>> iirc:
>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/handling- 
>> regressions.html#quotes-from-linus-about-regression
>>
>> If we can't agree on this, we maybe should ask Simona or Airlied for 
>> advice.
>>
>> Ciao, Thorsten
> 
> Thorsten,
> I agree with you, and it's fine for me to get this commit reverted, for 
> the sake
> of following the rule (which is something I agree about: as a user, the 
> last thing
> that should happen is to be afraid of what breaks if I update my 
> system!!!!),
> even though reverting this actually breaks anything that is not PS8640.
> 
> ......though......
> 
> Everyone, please, look at how fundamentally broken PS8640 is... Qualcomm 
> people had
> the same issue as what is currently happening here.
> 
> They had to fix their DSI driver, as it was kind-of broken in a vagualy 
> similar way
> compared to MediaTek - and then they found out that they needed (and 
> upstreamed) a
> *hack* that had to be done specifically for the PS8640 Bridge [1]: their 
> issue was
> never really resolved, as then the same bridge started casually working 
> for unknown
> reasons (is it still working?), so they removed the hack [2] and called 
> it a day.
> 
> [1]: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux- 
> next.git/commit/drivers/gpu/drm/msm/dsi/dsi_manager.c? 
> h=next-20260726&id=ec7981e6c614254937b37ce0af9eac09901c05c5
> [2]: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux- 
> next.git/commit/drivers/gpu/drm/msm/dsi/dsi_manager.c? 
> h=next-20260726&id=9e15123eca7942caa8a3e1f58ec0df7d088df149
> 
> Especially in [2], the assmption from Dmitry sadly isn't correct, 
> because this is
> happening now on MediaTek, and here Runtime PM makes sure that the 
> PS8640 is also
> being enabled "a wee bit" earlier than DSI... but that doesn't seem to 
> be enough.
> 
> 
> Now, here I'm kind of shotgunning at the driver, but I wonder if anyone 
> can try
> the following patch before reverting this commit in mtk_dsi? Adam?
> 
> ---
>   drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/parade-ps8640.c | 1 +
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/parade-ps8640.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/ 
> bridge/parade-ps8640.c
> index 96332721cb69..54ebf2fc8d1c 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/parade-ps8640.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/parade-ps8640.c
> @@ -665,6 +665,7 @@ static int ps8640_probe(struct i2c_client *client)
> 
>       ps_bridge->bridge.of_node = dev->of_node;
>       ps_bridge->bridge.type = DRM_MODE_CONNECTOR_eDP;
> +    ps_bridge->bridge.pre_enable_prev_first = true;
> 
>       /*
>        * Get MIPI DSI resources early. These can return -EPROBE_DEFER so
This does not fix the issue. I built 7.1.5 with this patch applied, and 
without the revert.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-27 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-20 11:36 Gary Bisson
2026-02-25  6:20 ` CK Hu (胡俊光)
2026-02-25  8:20   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2026-02-25 13:16   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-03-22 12:48 ` Chun-Kuang Hu
2026-06-18 21:06 ` Adam Thiede
2026-06-22 11:22   ` Gary Bisson
2026-06-22 13:23     ` Adam Thiede
2026-07-06 10:16       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-07-07  2:20         ` CK Hu (胡俊光)
2026-07-07  8:51           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-07-07 10:38             ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-07-08  1:25               ` Adam Thiede
2026-07-08 12:12                 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-07-08 12:13                 ` Gary Bisson
2026-07-08 12:25                   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-07-15 12:53 ` Esben Haabendal
2026-07-15 13:25   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-07-15 13:36     ` Gary Bisson
2026-07-15 13:40       ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-07-15 13:52         ` Esben Haabendal
2026-07-17 16:06           ` Gary Bisson
2026-07-27 12:28             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-07-27 12:48               ` Gary Bisson
2026-07-27 12:52                 ` Adam Thiede
2026-07-27 14:23                 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-07-27 15:54                   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-07-27 16:34                     ` Adam Thiede [this message]
2026-07-28 14:08                       ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2026-07-28 15:27                         ` Adam Thiede
2026-07-28 15:31                           ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno

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