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From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@gmail.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PROBLEM] Machine Freezes while Running Crossover Office
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:06:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <80A1629F-0E91-4CCD-B64D-3AF8C21ECBF6@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505291543070.10545@ppc970.osdl.org>

On May 29, 2005, at 18:59:03, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, 29 May 2005, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>> The mouse cursor does not move and the screen does not refresh. The
>> machine locks up completely for few seconds (actually more like  
>> 5-10 s)
>> and then the system comes back up (after which it can be used  
>> normally).
>> I cannot even switch virtual consoles. Please note that I can
>> immediately reproduce the problem again as many times as I want by  
>> doing
>> the test scenario.
>
> However, I don't understand how wine can block the X server from doing
> even cursor updates. It might be a scheduler bug, of course. The  
> one thing
> a bigger pipe buffer does is end up changing scheduling behaviour.
>
> (On the other hand, I would not be surprised if Wine does something  
> that
> makes X pause, like use DGA or whatever and tells X not to update the
> screen, including cursors).

If the application captured the mouse/keyboard and did not pass them  
on to
X for some period of time, then X would appear to not respond to VT- 
switch
requests, because those keys go through the same handler loop  
(depending on
the way your X is configured, of course).

I've had incidents where a user forkbomb was able to hang X (and  
therefore
the console) while our SCHED_RR rate-limited SSH daemon was running fine
and able to successfully kill the process.



Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-29 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-28 14:46 Pekka Enberg
2005-05-29 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-29 18:20   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-29 18:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-29 20:49       ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-29 22:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-29 23:06           ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2005-05-30 15:23           ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-30 17:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-30 18:07               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-05-30 18:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-30 18:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-30 18:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-30 19:12                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-31 13:54                   ` Greg Stark
2005-05-31  6:15               ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-05-31  6:35               ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-05-31  6:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-31 16:53                   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-05-31 17:24                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-05-31 18:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-31 21:20                         ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-01  0:07                           ` Con Kolivas
2005-06-01  2:31                             ` David Lang
2005-06-01  7:35                 ` [patch] TASK_NONINTERACTIVE (was: Machine Freezes while Running Crossover Office) Ingo Molnar
2005-06-01  8:42                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-01  8:55                   ` [patch] " Con Kolivas
2005-06-01 10:26                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-01 18:06                   ` [patch] " Gene Heskett
2005-06-03  8:34                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-03 10:57                     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-07 13:14                       ` Pekka Enberg
2005-10-17 15:10                   ` [patch] " Pekka Enberg
2005-10-17 15:15                     ` Ingo Molnar

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