From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>,
hch@lst.de, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@fb.com,
martin.petersen@oracle.com,
james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, hare@suse.com
Cc: jmeneghi@redhat.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, michael.christie@oracle.com,
snitzer@kernel.org, bmarzins@redhat.com,
dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] libmultipath: Add basic gendisk support
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 12:59:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <811e7fd2-799c-4e93-b0b0-222b131d918c@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09240997-29a9-4463-9b6c-3e3ff30c8756@linux.ibm.com>
On 03/03/2026 12:39, Nilay Shroff wrote:
>>
>>> Yes we got a reference to mpath_head while
>>> allocating it but then these are two (alloc mpath_disk and
>>> alloc mpath_head) disjoint operations. In that case, can't
>>> we have both mpath_disk and mpath_head allocated under one
>>> libmultipath API?
>>
>> I would like to have something simpler (like mainline NVMe code), but
>> I have it this way because of SCSI, as above.
>>
> I understand the intended lifetime model due to SCSI, but the current
> flow is somewhat confusing.
>
> In nvme_mpath_alloc_disk(), mpath_disk and mpath_head are allocated
> separately. However, during teardown, both objects are ultimately
> released through mpath_free_disk(), which drops the reference to
> mpath_head via mpath_put_head().
>
> Since the allocation of mpath_disk and mpath_head happens independently,
> it is not immediately obvious why their lifetime is tied together and
> why they are not freed independently when the NVMe head node is removed.
> This coupling makes the ownership and reference flow harder to reason
> about.
Yes, and also having 2x separate structures bloats the code, as we are
continuously looking up one from another and so on. Only having a
mpath_head for a nvme_ns_head would be nice - I'll look at this approach
(again).
>
> Additionally, I noticed that nvme_remove_head() has been removed in the
> NVMe code that integrates with libmultipath. IMO, It might be clearer to
> retain this function and make the teardown sequence explicit (after
> removing mpath_put_head() from mpath_free_disk()).
> For example:
>
> nvme_remove_head():
> mpath_unregister_disk(); /* removes mpath_disk and drops its ref */
> mpath_put_head(); /* drops mpath_head reference */
> nvme_put_ns_head(); /* drops NVMe namespace head reference */
>
> Does the above example makes sense?
Yeah, something like that would be simpler. I just need to make it work
for scsi :)
My current implementation has it that the scsi_device manages the
mpath_head and the scsi_disk manages the mpath_disk.
Supporting a single structure for scsi is more complicated, as the
lifetime of the scsi_disk is not tied to that of the scsi_device, i.e.
we can do something like this:
echo "8:0:0:0" > /sys/bus/scsi/drivers/sd/unbind
Which removes the scsi_disk, but the scsi_device remains. So, for
multipath support, doing this would mean the that mpath_disk would be
removed (if the last path), but not the mpath_head.
Furthermore, the scsi_disk info is private to sd.c, so this would mean
that the mpath_disk could/should also be private. My point is that scsi
makes things more complicated.
Thanks for checking!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-03 13:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-25 15:32 [PATCH 00/13] libmultipath: a generic multipath lib for block drivers John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 01/13] libmultipath: Add initial framework John Garry
2026-03-02 12:08 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 12:21 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 02/13] libmultipath: Add basic gendisk support John Garry
2026-02-26 2:16 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-02-26 9:04 ` John Garry
2026-03-02 12:31 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:39 ` John Garry
2026-03-03 12:39 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-03 12:59 ` John Garry [this message]
2026-03-03 12:13 ` Markus Elfring
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 03/13] libmultipath: Add path selection support John Garry
2026-02-26 3:37 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-02-26 9:26 ` John Garry
2026-03-02 12:36 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:11 ` John Garry
2026-03-03 11:01 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-03 12:41 ` John Garry
2026-03-04 10:26 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-04 11:09 ` John Garry
2026-04-14 10:03 ` John Garry
2026-04-14 11:43 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-14 13:10 ` John Garry
2026-03-04 13:10 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-04 14:38 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 04/13] libmultipath: Add bio handling John Garry
2026-03-02 12:39 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:52 ` John Garry
2026-03-03 14:00 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 05/13] libmultipath: Add support for mpath_device management John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 06/13] libmultipath: Add cdev support John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 07/13] libmultipath: Add delayed removal support John Garry
2026-03-02 12:41 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:54 ` John Garry
2026-04-08 11:28 ` John Garry
2026-04-08 15:41 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-04-08 16:28 ` John Garry
2026-04-09 6:37 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-09 13:00 ` John Garry
2026-04-10 7:06 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-10 8:55 ` John Garry
2026-04-10 9:09 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-10 9:49 ` John Garry
2026-04-10 10:51 ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-10 11:49 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 08/13] libmultipath: Add sysfs helpers John Garry
2026-02-27 19:05 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 11:11 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 09/13] libmultipath: Add PR support John Garry
2026-02-25 15:49 ` Keith Busch
2026-02-25 16:52 ` John Garry
2026-02-27 18:12 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 10:45 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 10/13] libmultipath: Add mpath_bdev_report_zones() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 11/13] libmultipath: Add support for block device IOCTL John Garry
2026-02-27 19:52 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 11:19 ` John Garry
2026-04-09 15:20 ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 12/13] libmultipath: Add mpath_bdev_getgeo() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 13/13] libmultipath: Add mpath_bdev_get_unique_id() John Garry
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