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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Nilay Shroff <nilay@linux.ibm.com>,
	hch@lst.de, kbusch@kernel.org, sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@fb.com,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, hare@suse.com
Cc: jmeneghi@redhat.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, michael.christie@oracle.com,
	snitzer@kernel.org, bmarzins@redhat.com,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] libmultipath: Add basic gendisk support
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 12:59:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <811e7fd2-799c-4e93-b0b0-222b131d918c@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09240997-29a9-4463-9b6c-3e3ff30c8756@linux.ibm.com>

On 03/03/2026 12:39, Nilay Shroff wrote:
>>
>>> Yes we got a reference to mpath_head while
>>> allocating it but then these are two (alloc mpath_disk and
>>> alloc mpath_head) disjoint operations. In that case, can't
>>> we have both mpath_disk and mpath_head allocated under one
>>> libmultipath API?
>>
>> I would like to have something simpler (like mainline NVMe code), but 
>> I have it this way because of SCSI, as above.
>>
> I understand the intended lifetime model due to SCSI, but the current 
> flow is somewhat confusing.
> 
> In nvme_mpath_alloc_disk(), mpath_disk and mpath_head are allocated
> separately. However, during teardown, both objects are ultimately
> released through mpath_free_disk(), which drops the reference to
> mpath_head via mpath_put_head().
> 
> Since the allocation of mpath_disk and mpath_head happens independently,
> it is not immediately obvious why their lifetime is tied together and
> why they are not freed independently when the NVMe head node is removed.
> This coupling makes the ownership and reference flow harder to reason
> about.

Yes, and also having 2x separate structures bloats the code, as we are 
continuously looking up one from another and so on. Only having a 
mpath_head for a nvme_ns_head would be nice - I'll look at this approach 
(again).

> 
> Additionally, I noticed that nvme_remove_head() has been removed in the
> NVMe code that integrates with libmultipath. IMO, It might be clearer to
> retain this function and make the teardown sequence explicit (after
> removing mpath_put_head() from mpath_free_disk()).
> For example:
> 
> nvme_remove_head():
>      mpath_unregister_disk();  /* removes mpath_disk and drops its ref */
>      mpath_put_head();         /* drops mpath_head reference */
>      nvme_put_ns_head();       /* drops NVMe namespace head reference */
> 
> Does the above example makes sense?

Yeah, something like that would be simpler. I just need to make it work 
for scsi :)

My current implementation has it that the scsi_device manages the 
mpath_head and the scsi_disk manages the mpath_disk.

Supporting a single structure for scsi is more complicated, as the 
lifetime of the scsi_disk is not tied to that of the scsi_device, i.e. 
we can do something like this:

echo "8:0:0:0" > /sys/bus/scsi/drivers/sd/unbind

Which removes the scsi_disk, but the scsi_device remains. So, for 
multipath support, doing this would mean the that mpath_disk would be 
removed (if the last path), but not the mpath_head.

Furthermore, the scsi_disk info is private to sd.c, so this would mean 
that the mpath_disk could/should also be private. My point is that scsi 
makes things more complicated.

Thanks for checking!

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-25 15:32 [PATCH 00/13] libmultipath: a generic multipath lib for block drivers John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 01/13] libmultipath: Add initial framework John Garry
2026-03-02 12:08   ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 12:21     ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 02/13] libmultipath: Add basic gendisk support John Garry
2026-02-26  2:16   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-02-26  9:04     ` John Garry
2026-03-02 12:31   ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:39     ` John Garry
2026-03-03 12:39       ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-03 12:59         ` John Garry [this message]
2026-03-03 12:13   ` Markus Elfring
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 03/13] libmultipath: Add path selection support John Garry
2026-02-26  3:37   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-02-26  9:26     ` John Garry
2026-03-02 12:36   ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:11     ` John Garry
2026-03-03 11:01       ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-03 12:41         ` John Garry
2026-03-04 10:26           ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-04 11:09             ` John Garry
2026-04-14 10:03             ` John Garry
2026-04-14 11:43               ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-14 13:10                 ` John Garry
2026-03-04 13:10   ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-04 14:38     ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 04/13] libmultipath: Add bio handling John Garry
2026-03-02 12:39   ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:52     ` John Garry
2026-03-03 14:00       ` Nilay Shroff
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 05/13] libmultipath: Add support for mpath_device management John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 06/13] libmultipath: Add cdev support John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 07/13] libmultipath: Add delayed removal support John Garry
2026-03-02 12:41   ` Nilay Shroff
2026-03-02 15:54     ` John Garry
2026-04-08 11:28     ` John Garry
2026-04-08 15:41       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-04-08 16:28         ` John Garry
2026-04-09  6:37           ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-09 13:00             ` John Garry
2026-04-10  7:06               ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-10  8:55                 ` John Garry
2026-04-10  9:09                   ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-10  9:49                     ` John Garry
2026-04-10 10:51                       ` Nilay Shroff
2026-04-10 11:49                         ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 08/13] libmultipath: Add sysfs helpers John Garry
2026-02-27 19:05   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 11:11     ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 09/13] libmultipath: Add PR support John Garry
2026-02-25 15:49   ` Keith Busch
2026-02-25 16:52     ` John Garry
2026-02-27 18:12     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 10:45       ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 10/13] libmultipath: Add mpath_bdev_report_zones() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 11/13] libmultipath: Add support for block device IOCTL John Garry
2026-02-27 19:52   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-02 11:19     ` John Garry
2026-04-09 15:20     ` John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 12/13] libmultipath: Add mpath_bdev_getgeo() John Garry
2026-02-25 15:32 ` [PATCH 13/13] libmultipath: Add mpath_bdev_get_unique_id() John Garry

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