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From: Dov Murik <dovmurik@linux.ibm.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Scull <ascull@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Lenny Szubowicz <lszubowi@redhat.com>,
	Peter Gonda <pgonda@google.com>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@linux.ibm.com>,
	Jim Cadden <jcadden@ibm.com>,
	Daniele Buono <dbuono@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dov Murik <dovmurik@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/5] efi: Load efi_secret module if EFI secret area is populated
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:03:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <815ba487-a6c1-0daa-aead-a7f3a52df2a1@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220203061615.wwembqmmpmg77iyj@sirius.home.kraxel.org>



On 03/02/2022 8:16, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
>>> I think the module should fail noisily.  See above for autoload.  In
>>> case the module is loaded (either manually by the admin, or because
>>> efi.coco_secret != EFI_INVALID_TABLE_ADDR) and it can't actually load
>>> the secrets we want know why ...
>>
>> Note that the AmdSev build of OVMF always publishes
>> LINUX_EFI_COCO_SECRET_TABLE_GUID in the EFI table.  Even when
>> LAUNCH_SECRET was not executed.  In such cases the secret area will be
>> empty.
> 
> Hmm, ok.  Why?  I assume the secret area is filled by the host and ovmf
> doesn't even look at it?
> 

Exactly.  OVMF just reserves this area, and puts its address+size in the
EFI config table.  It doesn't care about its format and usage.

There are currently two "users" for the actual data in this memory area:

1. grub's efisecret module (which reads the disk passphrase from an
entry in the secret area)
2. linux's efi_secret module (which we're discussing here)



>> If we keep only the 'efi.coco_secret != EFI_INVALID_TABLE_ADDR' check,
>> we'll get errors from efi_secret for every VM launch that doesn't
>> undergo LAUNCH_SECRET.  I don't think that's good.
> 
> Well, if that is a common case the module could either print nothing or
> log KERN_INFO level instead of KERN_ERROR.
> 

What if the user doesn't inject a secret and doesn't include the
efi_secret module at all in the initrd?  request_module("efi_secret")
will fail.

I can ignore the error code of request_module("efi_secret") but that
feels bad.



>> If we *do* want to check that the area starts with
>> EFI_SECRET_TABLE_HEADER_GUID (like I think we should), we need all the
>> checks before that, like checking that the area is big enough, and that
>> all the memremap()s succeed -- before actually comparing the
>> header_guid.  The checks are basically prerequisites for calling
>> efi_guidcmp() safely.
> 
> It is still not fully clear to me why you want do that check twice.
> 

I want to load the module only if secrets were injected by the Guest
Owner.

Again, I'm open to ideas on how to de-duplicate these early checks, if
that's important.


-Dov

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-03 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-01 12:44 [PATCH v7 0/5] Allow guest access to EFI confidential computing secret area Dov Murik
2022-02-01 12:44 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] efi: Save location of EFI confidential computing area Dov Murik
2022-02-02  8:38   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-01 12:44 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] efi/libstub: Reserve confidential computing secret area Dov Murik
2022-02-02  8:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-02 11:13     ` Dov Murik
2022-02-01 12:44 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] virt: Add efi_secret module to expose confidential computing secrets Dov Murik
2022-02-02  8:45   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-02 10:55     ` Dov Murik
2022-02-01 12:44 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] efi: Load efi_secret module if EFI secret area is populated Dov Murik
2022-02-02  8:47   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-02 11:08     ` Dov Murik
2022-02-02 14:31       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-02 15:09         ` Dov Murik
2022-02-03  6:16           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-03 11:03             ` Dov Murik [this message]
2022-02-03 12:11               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-01 12:44 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] docs: security: Add coco/efi_secret documentation Dov Murik
2022-02-02  8:49   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-02 11:19     ` Dov Murik
2022-02-01 13:50 ` [PATCH v7 0/5] Allow guest access to EFI confidential computing secret area Greg KH
2022-02-01 14:24   ` James Bottomley
2022-02-01 14:41     ` Greg KH
2022-02-01 15:05       ` James Bottomley
2022-02-01 18:07     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-02-02  4:01     ` Matthew Garrett
2022-02-02  6:10       ` Greg KH
2022-02-02  6:54         ` Matthew Garrett
2022-02-02  7:05           ` Greg KH
2022-02-02  7:10             ` Matthew Garrett
2022-02-02  7:22               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-02  8:04                 ` Matthew Garrett
2022-02-02  8:25                   ` Greg KH
2022-02-09  0:25                     ` Nayna
2022-02-02  8:36                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2022-02-02  8:45                     ` Matthew Garrett
2022-02-07 18:50                       ` Dov Murik

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