From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
Evan McNabb <emcnabb@redhat.com>,
Jan Stancek <jstancek@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selinux: selinux_setprocattr()->ptrace_parent() needs rcu_read_lock()
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:11:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8164425.ZmoIzv0qh9@sifl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131214163256.GA21675@redhat.com>
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 05:32:56 PM Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 12/14, Paul Moore wrote:
> > ... I'm curious about the removal of the task lock; shouldn't we keep
> > the task lock in place?
>
> Why? It protects nothing in this case, afaics. Unless of course it
> protects cred->security somehow, but it doesn't look as if.
>
> Probably task_lock() is here because PTRACE_ATTACH used the same lock,
> but this was changed by 4b105cbbaf7c0 in 2009 (ptrace_attach() still
> takes it for __ptrace_may_access() but this is another story).
>
> However (iirc) PTRACE_DETACH never took this lock, so this was always
> racy and task_lock() is simply misleading and confusing, at least
> currently.
Okay, you convinced me.
> So I think the patch is fine, but I decided to send v2 without pid_alive().
> If we are going to keep ptrace_parent(), it would be better to add the
> comment into ptrace_parent() to explain that ->ptrace != 0 guarantees that
> this task is not unhashed.
>
> IOW, I also changed my mind about this part
>
> The patch also checks pid_alive(p) before ptrace_parent(p) to
> ensure that this task can't be dead even before rcu_read_lock(),
> in this case its ->parent points to nowhere. This is not really
> needed "in practice", task->ptrace must be already cleared in
> this case but we should not rely on this.
>
> in the changelog.
Seems reasonable to me. I'll let you work on the ptrace_parent() side of
things and I'll go ahead and merge your v2 patch; it looks fine to me and
regardless of what happens with ptrace_parent() we should dump the task_lock()
and add a RCU lock in its place.
Thanks for your help.
--
paul moore
www.paul-moore.com
prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-16 21:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-05 16:59 Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-05 21:53 ` Paul Moore
2013-12-06 14:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-14 15:16 ` Paul Moore
2013-12-14 16:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-14 16:33 ` [PATCH v2] " Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-16 21:12 ` Paul Moore
2013-12-16 21:11 ` Paul Moore [this message]
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