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From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: harry@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, cl@gentwo.org,
	rientjes@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/slub: introduce slab parking to reduce list_lock contention
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2026 09:43:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <819fbc70-4c6b-4202-ada0-c3ef8ace1408@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqPlMzUIw-4g2iOX@fedora>

On 9/11/26 15:06, Hao Li wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 07, 2026 at 03:38:22PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> On 8/24/26 14:25, Hao Li wrote:
>> > Introduce a mechanism called parking to mitigate lock contention in the
>> > free slowpath.
>> 
>> Interesting!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>> 
>> > In the free slowpath, when __slab_free() transitions a full slab into a
>> > partial/empty slab through a free operation, it must acquire the list
>> > lock to add these newly freed partial/empty slabs to the partial list.
>> > 
>> > Why must partial and empty slabs converted from full slabs be added to
>> > the partial list? Because only by doing so can the sheaf refill or alloc
>> > slowpath see these partial slabs and allocate from them. Therefore, the
>> > list insertion must be performed, which requires acquiring the lock and
>> > leads to heavy lock contention under high concurrency.
>> > 
>> > Analysis of profiling data from the will-it-scale mmap1 benchmark shows
>> > that full -> partial transitions account for a large proportion, second
>> > only to partial -> partial.
>> > 
>> > With extra instrumentation added to __slab_free(), the following data
>> > was collected for the maple_node cache (in counts):
>> > 
>> >   partial->partial    843017414
>> >   full->partial       550719384
>> >   partial->empty      17459564
>> >   full->empty         2
>> 
>> That's a lot inded. I'd be careful if it's some specific aspect of the test,
>> i.e. lots of parallel allocations followed by lots of frees, that wouldn't
>> be that common in realistic workloads. But worth looking into at least.
>> If it's this kind of pathologic behavior, then I expect changing sheaf size
>> as suggested by Pedro wouldn't help much.
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out. I looked into this bursty alloc-and-free behavior
> a bit deeper and ran some further experiments.
> 
> The core question we want to answer is: why does such a massive volume of
> object allocations and frees fall straight through to the node partial list
> layer, rather than being caught and handled at the barn/sheaf layer? In SLUB's
> current design, the per-CPU main/spare sheaves act as the L1 cache, the barn as
> L2, and the node partial list as L3. For the mmap1 benchmark (which heavily
> stresses the maple tree), the allocation path uses kmem_cache_prefill_sheaf()
> rather than the generic allocation APIs, and the frees go through kfree_rcu().
> 
> Then, here is what happens during allocation: kmem_cache_prefill_sheaf()
> normally borrows the spare sheaf directly. If the sheaf holds fewer objects
> than requested, it refills it to capacity from the node partial list layer and
> this completely bypasses the barn layer. Once the maple tree finishes
> allocating a batch of objects, it returns the sheaf back to pcs->spare via
> kmem_cache_return_sheaf(). So in essence, this prefill path is just funneling
> objects directly from the node partial list into the maple tree through the
> spare sheaf. It skips the barn layer.
> 
> Then on the free side: these objects are freed via kfree_rcu, and then
> rcu_free_sheaf() checks if there is still room on the barn's full list. But
> since the allocation path never actually pulled from the barn, the full list
> stays permanently saturated. As a result, rcu_free_sheaf() always falls back to
> sheaf_flush_unused(), flushing objects straight into the node partial list
> layer. It skips the barn layer too.
> 
> So looking at this behavior, the benchmark does seem to reveal a gap in this
> allocation path, where a huge amount of traffic ends up bypassing the barn
> layer entirely.

Great find! Indeed that's a big gap for prefilled sheaf users, doh.

> To see if we can address this, I draft an experimental patch. It introduces a
> new field, barn->sheaf_partial, which is a single sheaf rather than a list.
> 
> [The patch code is included at the end of this email.]
> 
> Whenever kmem_cache_prefill_sheaf() runs, it detaches pcs->spare and checks
> whether it holds enough objects for the request.
> 
> If so, it returns it right away as in the original code.
> 
> If not, call __prefill_sheaf_pfmemalloc() and then go into
> barn_replace_partial_sheaf() to swap the non-full spare sheaf with a full sheaf
> from the barn. The full sheaf is handed to the caller, while the non-full sheaf
> is temporarily stashed into barn->sheaf_partial. This largely avoids falling
> back to the node partial list. If barn->sheaf_partial already has a sheaf, we
> merge them together, and any resulting full or empty sheaves are placed back
> into the barn accordingly.

Makes sense to me!

> The key idea here is simply to let __prefill_sheaf_pfmemalloc() pull a sheaf
> from the barn's full list, which makes room on the list for future
> rcu_free_sheaf() calls.
> 
> Here are the numbers with just this experimental patch applied (without the
> parking patch):
> 
> baseline: 28779879
> after experimental patch: 35550211 (+23.5%)
> 
> metric                              before             after             delta      change
> =============================================================================================
> aliases                                  0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> align                                  256               256                 0      +0.00%
> alloc_fastpath                      23,259            59,287            36,028    +154.90%
> alloc_node_mismatch                      0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> alloc_slab                      10,171,378         4,796,346        -5,375,032     -52.84%
> alloc_slowpath                           0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> barn_get                               441       193,807,528       193,807,087  +43947185.26%
> barn_get_fail                            0               377               377         new
> barn_put                               441       181,694,607       181,694,166  +41200491.16%
> barn_put_fail                  272,868,220       156,335,632      -116,532,588     -42.71%
> cache_dma                                0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> cmpxchg_double_fail                744,975           357,255          -387,720     -52.04%
> cpu_partial                              0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> cpu_slabs                                0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> destroy_by_rcu                           0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> free_add_partial               337,390,126       162,178,648      -175,211,478     -51.93%
> free_fastpath                        5,204            14,081             8,877    +170.58%
> free_rcu_sheaf               8,731,794,372    10,816,953,777     2,085,159,405     +23.88%
> free_rcu_sheaf_fail                      0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> free_remove_partial             10,170,229         4,794,785        -5,375,444     -52.85%
> free_slab                       10,170,229         4,794,785        -5,375,444     -52.85%
> free_slowpath                   18,697,056        11,563,127        -7,133,929     -38.16%
> hwcache_align                            0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> min_partial                              5                 5                 0      +0.00%
> object_size                            256               256                 0      +0.00%
> objects                             14,774            14,596              -178      -1.20%
> objects_partial                     14,774            14,596              -178      -1.20%
> objs_per_slab                           64                64                 0      +0.00%
> order                                    2                 2                 0      +0.00%
> order_fallback                           0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> partial                              1,913             2,544               631     +32.98%
> poison                                   0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> reclaim_account                          0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> red_zone                                 0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> remote_node_defrag_ratio               100               100                 0      +0.00%
> sanity_checks                            0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> sheaf_alloc                    145,870,437       151,536,660         5,666,223      +3.88%
> sheaf_capacity                          32                32                 0      +0.00%
> sheaf_flush                  8,731,787,311     5,002,740,743    -3,729,046,568     -42.71%
> sheaf_free                     145,870,431       151,536,655         5,666,224      +3.88%
> sheaf_prefill_fast           3,500,187,266     4,331,383,393       831,196,127     +23.75%
> sheaf_prefill_oversize                   0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> sheaf_prefill_slow                     322               646               324    +100.62%
> sheaf_refill                 8,750,484,664     5,014,304,944    -3,736,179,720     -42.70%
> sheaf_return_fast            3,500,187,348     4,331,383,596       831,196,248     +23.75%
> sheaf_return_slow                      240               443               203     +84.58%
> slab_size                              256               256                 0      +0.00%
> slabs                                1,913             2,544               631     +32.98%
> slabs_cpu_partial                        0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> store_user                               0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> total_objects                      122,432           162,816            40,384     +32.98%
> trace                                    0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> usersize                                 0                 0                 0      +0.00%
> 
> derived                                                  before             after      change
> =============================================================================================
> page allocator churn (alloc_slab + free_slab)        20,341,607         9,591,131     -52.85%

Very nice!

> 
> As we can see from the data, barn_get and barn_put spike significantly, which
> shows a large part of the traffic is redirected into the barn. This eases slab
> alloc/free churn and cuts page allocator allocations/frees by 52.85%.
> 
> Additionally, NUMA performance also seems to see some improvement. Under the
> maple tree benchmark, the free_slowpath metric likely reflects objects that
> enter add_ptr_to_bulk_krc_lock() due to nid mismatches and are eventually freed
> via kfree_bulk(). This metric also shows a noticeable drop.
> 
> Metrics like alloc_fastpath did improve, but their absolute numbers are small
> and likely unrelated to the maple tree test.
> 
> The tradeoff is a increase in slab fragmentation, with total_objects and slabs
> growing by 32.98%. I suspect this happens because as more traffic gets routed
> to the barn layer, objects end up being more scattered, which ends up pinning
> more slabs.

Maybe it's partially also due to the fact that the test can run faster (as
we discussed earlier), thus have e.g. more kfree_rcu() objects in flight
(free_rcu_sheaf above increased a lot), etc. So I wouldn't worry too much.

> For comparison: the parking mechanism reduces lock contention at the node
> partial list layer, while this experimental patch absorb the traffic earlier at
> the barn layer. They are independent in mechanism. Interestingly, both
> approaches deliver very comparable performance improvements. A bit

Great.

> frustratingly, combining the two only squeezes out an extra ~1% gain, I'm still
> investigating why that is.

I don't think it would be bad if this change rendered the parking approach
unnecessary. I suspect Pedro would be very happy :)

> Phew, that turned out to be quite a long write-up!

Thanks for that :)

> All in all, I feel we could probably focus on evaluating and pursuing this
> experimental patch first. For maple tree performance specifically, it seems
> like it might be the better fit compared to the parking mechanism (which is
> probably better suited for generic allocation pressure outside of maple tree).

Agreed! I'd try to look at the code ASAP. For now we can probably... eh...
park the parking patch :) and its possible improvements.

Thanks again!


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-15  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-24 12:19 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/slub: reduce list_lock contention with slab parking Hao Li
2026-08-24 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm/slub: make the case handling in __slab_free() easier to follow Hao Li
2026-08-24 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/slub: introduce slab parking to reduce list_lock contention Hao Li
2026-09-07 13:38     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-07 16:19       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-09-11 13:06       ` Hao Li
2026-09-15  7:43         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-09-16  3:05           ` Hao Li
2026-09-16  8:01         ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-16 13:50         ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-04 16:04   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm/slub: make the case handling in __slab_free() easier to follow Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-07  2:55     ` Hao Li
2026-09-14 13:39   ` Harry Yoo
2026-09-16 14:00     ` Hao Li
2026-08-27 16:24 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm/slub: reduce list_lock contention with slab parking Pedro Falcato
2026-08-30 14:59   ` Hao Li
2026-09-07 13:44 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-11 11:24   ` Hao Li
2026-09-15  7:10     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-09-16 12:58       ` Hao Li

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