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From: "Parag Warudkar" <parag.warudkar@gmail.com>
To: "Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Frans Pop" <elendil@planet.nl>, "Mike Galbraith" <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Horrendous Audio Stutter - current git
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:10:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <82e4877d0805020410u78c6f03fr8e8e53d5a19f6846@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1209717278.13978.136.camel@twins>

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 20:14 -0400, Parag Warudkar wrote:

>
>  Parag, would you also test with !NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS to see if that solves
>  your problem?
>
>  The easiest way to disable it is (assumes you have debugfs mounted
>  at /debug):
>
>   # echo NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS > /debug/sched_features

Seems to make it stutter a little less - but still not usable.

>
>  You can also disable NORMALIZED_SLEEPER that way (of course you would
>  first have to enable NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS again):
>
>   # echo NO_NORMALIZED_SLEEPER > /debug/sched_features
>
No significant difference from NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS that I can tell.

>  So by default we have both enabled; could you report if either
>
>  NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS
>
>  NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS + NO_NORMALIZED_SLEEPERS
>
>  works for you?

I would say no - the audio still is unusable - slightly better with
NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS, no difference with the other.

But per Mike's suggestion if I disable CONFIG_GROUP_SCHED ,
CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED and CONFIG_USER_SCHED, even with
NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS audio is good again, which does not change with
NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS. (No skips for long time under -j8 - still skips
a _very_ tiny bit - noticeable if I listen too carefully - but we can
ignore that for the time being.)

Mike -  the GROUP_SCHED stuff is set to y in the Ubuntu kernel and I
have no audio skips - may be a regression introduced after 2.6.24?

But why is the GROUP_SCHED stuff default y if it so unusable?

>
>  Also, could you apply this patch, and report the bonus_max value for
>  your music player under all three scenarios?
>

I see Frans already reported that and there was some conclusion - let
me know if more data will help.

Thanks!

Parag

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-02 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-02  0:14 Parag Warudkar
2008-05-02  8:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 10:32   ` Frans Pop
2008-05-02 10:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 11:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 11:37         ` Frans Pop
2008-05-02 11:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 11:45             ` Frans Pop
2008-05-02 11:51               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 12:06             ` Frans Pop
2008-05-02 12:22               ` Parag Warudkar
2008-05-02 13:21                 ` Dhaval Giani
2008-05-02 11:10   ` Parag Warudkar [this message]
2008-05-02 12:09     ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-02 12:21       ` Parag Warudkar
2008-05-02 12:37         ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-02 15:02           ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-02 15:49             ` Frans Pop
2008-05-02 18:53               ` Frans Pop
2008-05-02 19:27                 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-02 19:56                   ` 'global' rq->clock (was Re: Horrendous Audio Stutter - current git) Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 20:38                     ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-05-02 20:46                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 22:00                         ` 'global' rq->clock David Miller
2008-05-02 21:48                     ` David Miller
2008-05-02 10:09                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-04 12:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 22:07                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-03  8:28                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-03  9:05                           ` David Miller
2008-05-03 10:10                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-03 19:27                               ` David Miller
2008-05-03 19:37                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-03 22:30                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-03 22:38                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-03 23:04                                     ` David Miller
2008-05-03 23:36                                       ` David Miller
2008-05-03 23:38                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-03 23:40                                           ` David Miller
2008-05-03 23:47                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-04  2:22                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-03 19:28                               ` David Miller
2008-05-03 19:39                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-03  6:20                     ` 'global' rq->clock (was Re: Horrendous Audio Stutter - current git) Mike Galbraith
2008-05-02 19:38               ` Horrendous Audio Stutter - current git Mike Galbraith
2008-05-03  7:13           ` Frans Pop
2008-05-03  7:39             ` Mike Galbraith
2008-05-07  8:26   ` Frans Pop
2008-05-07  8:32     ` Ingo Molnar

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