From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Xukai Wang <kingxukai@zohomail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3] sched/proxy: Defer donor commit until after proxy resolution
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 09:35:28 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <832e9395-49e9-40dd-a4db-1c1bf9753100@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fe8a0fe-68f5-467b-be82-cf631e00fd87@zohomail.com>
Hello Xukai,
On 10/10/2026 6:27 PM, Xukai Wang wrote:
> So the measurable effect is at the donor commit point itself: deferring
> the commit reduced the number of put_prev_task()/set_next_task() callback
> invocations by 81.7%, with the measured callback time at that point
> dropping from about 11.29 ms to 2.52 ms per workload run.
>
> Separately from the measured cost, this also places the scheduling-class
> state commit after the donor has survived proxy resolution, rather than
> committing state for a candidate that may subsequently be abandoned.
>
> I'd appreciate your thoughts on whether these measurements address the
> concern from v2, and whether there are any changes you'd like to see for
> v4.
I don't have any real concern except you'll have to rebase it on latest
tip and handle the scx changes. Also in your v3 ...
On 8/27/2026 2:48 PM, Xukai Wang wrote:
> @@ -7143,45 +7159,49 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(int sched_mode)
>
> pick_again:
> assert_balance_callbacks_empty(rq);
> - next = pick_next_task(rq, &rf);
> - rq->next_class = next->sched_class;
> + donor = pick_next_task(rq, &rf);
> + rq->next_class = donor->sched_class;
> + next = donor;
> if (sched_proxy_exec()) {
> - struct task_struct *prev_donor = rq->donor;
> -
> - rq_set_donor(rq, next);
> - next->blocked_donor = NULL;
> - if (unlikely(next->is_blocked)) {
> - next = find_proxy_task(rq, next, &rf);
> - if (!next) {
> - zap_balance_callbacks(rq);
> + donor->blocked_donor = NULL;
> + if (unlikely(donor->is_blocked)) {
> + struct sched_dl_entity *donor_dl_server = rq->dl_server;
> +
> + rq->dl_server = NULL;
I'm not able to understand this special dl_server handling.
In case of "pick_again", pick_next_task() will clear the rq->dl_server
before the pick and for "keep_resched" with idle task, I don't think the
dl_server from pick makes any difference since we'll come back into
schedule right after the switch.
For rest of find_proxy_task() we don't really care about dl_server afaict
unless I'm missing something. did you trip something that required this
change?
> +
> + next = find_proxy_task(rq, donor, &rf);
> + if (!next)
> goto pick_again;
> - }
> - if (next == rq->idle) {
> - zap_balance_callbacks(rq);
> + if (next == rq->idle)
> goto keep_resched;
> - }
> - }
> - if (rq->donor == prev_donor && prev != next) {
> - struct task_struct *donor = rq->donor;
> - /*
> - * When transitioning like:
> - *
> - * prev next
> - * donor: B B
> - * curr: A B or C
> - *
> - * then put_prev_set_next_task() will not have done
> - * anything, since B == B. However, A might have
> - * missed a RT/DL balance opportunity due to being
> - * on_cpu.
> - */
> - donor->sched_class->put_prev_task(rq, donor, donor);
> - donor->sched_class->set_next_task(rq, donor, true);
> +
> + rq->dl_server = donor_dl_server;
> }
> - } else {
> - rq_set_donor(rq, next);
> +
> }
>
> + put_prev_set_next_task(rq, rq->donor, donor);
> +
> + if (sched_proxy_exec() &&
> + donor == rq->donor && prev != next) {
nit. That condition is too short to need splitting into two.
> + /*
> + * When transitioning like:
> + *
> + * prev next
> + * donor: B B
> + * curr: A B or C
> + *
> + * then put_prev_set_next_task() will not have called
> + * the class->put_prev_task()/set_next_task() callbacks,
> + * since B == B. However, A might have missed a RT/DL
> + * balance opportunity due to being on_cpu.
> + */
> + donor->sched_class->put_prev_task(rq, donor, donor);
> + donor->sched_class->set_next_task(rq, donor, true);
> + }
> +
> + rq_set_donor(rq, donor);
(+ Andrea for sched-ext)
On current tip + sched-ext changes lined for v7.4 from
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260922165445.943315-9-arighi@nvidia.com/
some sched-ext bits will need rq->donor to already reflect the next
selection before they are called and three "if (sched_proxy_exec() ...)"
splits in schedule() looks all over the place.
I'm not sure if 8ms overhead is that visible in a real world workload
especially where SCHED_PROXY_EXEC brings much more benefit to balance
that overhead.
I'll let John, Peter, and Andrea comment further - last I remember,
Peter preferred keeping all the sched_proxy_exec() related bits in a
single place in __schedule().
> +
> picked:
> clear_tsk_need_resched(prev);
> clear_preempt_need_resched();
>
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-12 4:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-27 9:18 Xukai Wang
2026-10-10 12:57 ` Xukai Wang
2026-10-12 4:05 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-10-12 7:39 ` Xukai Wang
2026-10-12 9:21 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-12 14:34 ` Xukai Wang
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