From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>,
Menglong Dong <menglong8.dong@gmail.com>
Cc: andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org,
sdf@fomichev.me, kuniyu@google.com, ahmed.zaki@intel.com,
aleksander.lobakin@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] net: vrf: don't down the interface when add slave
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 18:03:12 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8358d907-0edc-4ff0-a520-9cec3c84a49a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJhNP_xQyENLSF6d@shredder>
On 8/10/25 1:41 AM, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 01:56:34PM +0800, Menglong Dong wrote:
>> For now, cycle_netdev() will be called to flush the neighbor cache when
>> add slave by downing and upping the slave netdev. When the slave has
>> vlan devices, the data transmission can interrupted.
>
> OK, but can you provide more details on the production use case for
> enslaving the real device to a VRF during runtime? Usually this kind of
> configuration is performed before data transmission begins. I suspect
> this is why nobody complained about this behavior despite being present
> in the VRF driver since its initial submission almost a decade ago.
>
> I'm asking because the potential for regressions from this patch seems
> quite high to me. For example, before this patch nexthop objects using
> the enslaved device would get flushed, but now they persist. This can
> impact offload of nexthop objects and it's possible I'm missing more
> potential regressions.
>
+1
Thanks for staying on top of this, Ido. I have been very distracted the
past few months.
The design choices when the VRF code was first written was either
1) require the devices to be added to a VRF while down, or
2) cycle the device while adding it to the VRF.
I preferred 2 as the simplest choice for users, and so that is the way
the feature went in.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-11 0:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-07 5:56 Menglong Dong
2025-08-07 17:32 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-10 7:41 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-08-11 0:03 ` David Ahern [this message]
2025-08-11 1:14 ` Menglong Dong
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