From: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
To: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Cc: Longlong Xia <xialonglong2025@163.com>, <nao.horiguchi@gmail.com>,
<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
<xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-mm@kvack.org>, Longlong Xia <xialonglong@kylinos.cn>,
<david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/ksm: Add recovery mechanism for memory failures
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 11:39:22 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <839b72b8-55dc-4f4e-b1da-6f24ecf9446f@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <077882e3-f69f-44f3-aa74-b325721beb42@linux.dev>
On 2025/10/11 17:38, Lance Yang wrote:
>
>
> On 2025/10/11 17:23, Miaohe Lin wrote:
>> On 2025/10/11 15:52, Lance Yang wrote:
>>> @Miaohe
>>>
>>> I'd like to raise a concern about a potential hardware failure :)
>>
>> Thanks for your thought.
>>
>>>
>>> My tests show that if the shared zeropage (or huge zeropage) gets marked
>>> with HWpoison, the kernel continues to install it for new mappings.
>>> Surprisingly, it does not kill the accessing process ...
>>
>> Have you investigated the cause? If user space writes to shared zeropage,
>> it will trigger COW and a new page will be installed. After that, reading
>> the newly allocated page won't trigger memory error. In this scene, it does
>> not kill the accessing process.
>
> Not write just read :)
>
>>
>>>
>>> The concern is, once the page is no longer zero-filled due to the hardware
>>> failure, what will happen? Would this lead to silent data corruption for
>>> applications that expect to read zeros?
>>
>> IMHO, once the page is no longer zero-filled due to the hardware failure, later
>> any read will trigger memory error and memory_failure should handle that.
>
> I've only tested injecting an error on the shared zeropage using corrupt-pfn:
>
> echo $PFN > /sys/kernel/debug/hwpoison/corrupt-pfn
>
> But no memory error was triggered on a subsequent read ...
It's because corrupt-pfn only provides a software error injection mechanism.
If you want to trigger memory error on read, you need use hardware error injection
mechanism e.g.APEI Error INJection [1].
[1] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.8/firmware-guide/acpi/apei/einj.html
Thanks.
.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-13 3:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-09 7:00 [PATCH RFC 0/1] " Longlong Xia
2025-10-09 7:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/1] " Longlong Xia
2025-10-09 12:13 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11 7:52 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11 9:23 ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-11 9:38 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11 12:57 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13 3:39 ` Miaohe Lin [this message]
2025-10-13 4:42 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13 9:15 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13 9:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-13 9:46 ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-13 11:00 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13 11:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-13 11:18 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11 3:25 ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-13 20:10 ` [PATCH RFC] " Markus Elfring
2025-10-09 18:57 ` [PATCH RFC 0/1] " David Hildenbrand
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