From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762666AbYECJoV (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 May 2008 05:44:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759231AbYECJoO (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 May 2008 05:44:14 -0400 Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.227]:20342 "EHLO rv-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758923AbYECJoN (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 May 2008 05:44:13 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=qZeXqtAd5lPaL8xxSmPHlbrWpQPH5HxQ8NHGk2AI4LZrXnrQlkCQbnoU+HaG8t4b1fa3cEEuRTq0Ijl2HIAw7QjycSRSgLcueIH1mTbiV0QBf2Xm7h0Swl48smC8WiV9+fwTFfNqSPOmtSgLhagvP/g+U6Rbwyswn/Sac8Cg58g= Message-ID: <84144f020805030244y44313fdl17cee6fa38bfd690@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:44:12 +0300 From: "Pekka Enberg" To: "Adrian Bunk" Subject: Re: LogFS merge Cc: "Willy Tarreau" , "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Engel?=" , "Linus Torvalds" , "Stephen Rothwell" , "Andrew Morton" , "David Woodhouse" , "Arnd Bergmann" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20080503091111.GH5838@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080502133234.GA24080@logfs.org> <20080502202151.GB24080@logfs.org> <20080502213146.GD24080@logfs.org> <20080502215833.GG24080@logfs.org> <20080503070318.GR8474@1wt.eu> <20080503091111.GH5838@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c572d658bb07e6c0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Adrian, On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Why not merge it and mark it experimental then ? In fact, this is about > > what you're looking for : reduced merge hassle and more testers. > > Andi already answered that one: > > "Merging file systems too early can quickly ruin their name and that > taint is hard to ever get rid again then (e.g. happened to JFS)" > > And a stable kernel shouldn't be something for getting "more testers", > it should be for tested code ready to be used in production. > What you call "more testers" would be people who try it in production > (e.g. to overcome shortcomings of JFFS2) thinking it was stable. > > And no, EXPERIMENTAL in the kernel is not usable for keeping people from > trying known-whacky code. I think ext4 already set the precedent that you _can_ do development within the 2.6 series, no?