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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	ming.m.lin@intel.com, sheng.yang@intel.com,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
	KVM General <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"Fr??d??ric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: KVM usability
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:56:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84144f021003070156p2e0e86fche27c2b8d7d3e760@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B937363.4070406@redhat.com>

Hi Avi,

(slightly off-topic)

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> perf really is wonderful, but to be really competitive, and usable to more
> developers, it needs to be in a graphical environment.  I want 'perf report'
> output to start out collapsed and drill down by clicking on a tree widget.
>  Clicking on a function name opens its definition.  'perf annotate' should
> display annotations on my editor window, not in a pager.  I should be able
> to check events on a list, not using 'perf list'.

People keep bringing this up but I don't quite agree. Mac OS X has
"shark" which is pretty much what you describe above. However, having
used both, I prefer perf's simple UI for two reasons: it's much easier
to automate perf commands and text-based reports are superior for
sharing results (and keeping track of results when doing performance
optimizations).

That said, AFAICT, it should be pretty simple to implement a
shark-like UI with GTK as current perf code is pretty good fit for
that. I've pondered about doing that myself but quite frankly, I don't
see any big gains in that.

                        Pekka

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-07  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-03-02 10:30                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07  9:35                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07  9:56                       ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2010-03-07 10:11                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:42                         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07 15:14                       ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-07 18:16                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:01                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 18:15                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:53                           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 19:05                             ` Avi Kivity

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