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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Itaru Kitayama <itaru.kitayama@gmail.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v7 00/10] Small-sized THP for anonymous memory
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 11:46:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84636e85-8b94-4b68-8b3b-6f09d26aefbe@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <832a486c-7f22-49cd-a3f5-3709dc6c6d09@arm.com>

On 11/29/23 01:59, Ryan Roberts wrote:
...
>>>> Regarding new stats, maybe an interface that indicates the actual sizes would be
>>>> best. As discussed, extending the existing single-large-file statistics might
>>>> not be possible and we'd have to come up with a new interface, that maybe
>>>> completely lacks "AnonHugePages" and directly goes for the individual sizes.
>>>
>>> Yes, but I think we are agreed this is future work.
>>>
>>
>> We do want to have at least some way to verify that mTHP is active from
>> day 0, though.
> 
> Could you clarify what you mean by "active"?

I was thinking of the *pte* counters that we had in v6, in /proc/vmstat and
/proc/meminfo. I missed those, they were helpful in confirming that the test
was actually using the new feature. It's easy to misconfigure these tests
because there are so many settings (in addition to kernel settings), and
people were having some difficulty.

> 
> Current plan is that there will be a per-size
> transparent_hugepage/hugepages-<size>kB/enabled sysfs file that can be querried
> to see if the size is enabled (available for the kernel to use).
> 
> But for this initial submission, we previously agreed (well, at least David and
> I) that not having a full set of stats is not a problem - they can come later.
> So the only way to verify that the kernel is allocating and mapping a particular
> THP size is to parse /proc/<pid>pagemap and look at the PFNs for now. Is that
> sufficient?
> 

ugh, that's a little rough for just a command line sysadmin or QA 
person, isn't it?
Still, I expect we can survive without it for an initial release.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-22 16:29 Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 01/10] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary anon large folios Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27  8:27   ` Barry Song
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 02/10] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 17:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 10:34     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27  4:36   ` Barry Song
2023-11-27 11:30     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 03/10] mm: thp: Introduce per-size thp sysfs interface Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29  3:42   ` John Hubbard
2023-11-29  8:05     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-29 11:05     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 19:40       ` John Hubbard
2023-11-30 12:14         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 04/10] mm: thp: Support allocation of anonymous small-sized THP Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27  3:41   ` Barry Song
2023-11-27 11:28     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 05/10] selftests/mm/kugepaged: Restore thp settings at exit Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23  5:54   ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 06/10] selftests/mm: Factor out thp settings management Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23  6:07   ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-27 12:22     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 07/10] selftests/mm: Support small-sized THP interface in thp_settings Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 08/10] selftests/mm/khugepaged: Enlighten for small-sized THP Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 09/10] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 17:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 10:48     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 13:59       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 14:11         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 14:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 10/10] selftests/mm/cow: Add tests for anonymous small-sized THP Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 14:02   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 14:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 14:54       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:32 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 00/10] Small-sized THP for anonymous memory David Hildenbrand
2023-11-23  6:28 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-23 15:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-23 16:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-23 16:18     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-23 16:50       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-24  1:14         ` John Hubbard
2023-11-24  1:34         ` Zi Yan
2023-11-24  9:02           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-24  9:56   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 15:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-24 15:23       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 15:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-24 15:53         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-24 17:34           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27  8:20             ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-27 10:31               ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28  2:09                 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-28  8:48                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-28 12:15                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 14:09                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-28 15:34                         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 16:40                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-28 18:39                           ` John Hubbard
2023-11-29  9:59                             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 19:46                               ` John Hubbard [this message]
2023-11-28  4:10               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-28  4:05             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-28  8:47               ` David Hildenbrand

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