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From: Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: "Jamie Lokier" <jamie@shareable.org>,
	"gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: Convert BUG() to use unreachable()
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:17:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84fc9c000912170917y4b2772d0n47bb4dabc74b91ef@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2A65C6.7080009@caviumnetworks.com>

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com> wrote:
> Jamie Lokier wrote:
>>
>> Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>>>
>>> Use the new unreachable() macro instead of for(;;);
>>>        *(int *)0 = 0;
>>>          /* Avoid "noreturn function does return" */
>>> -       for (;;);
>>> +       unreachable();
>>
>> Will GCC-4.5 remove ("optimise away") the *(int *)0 = 0 because it
>> knows the branch of the code leading to unreachable can never be reached?
>>
>
> I don't know the definitive answer, so I am sending to gcc@...
>
> FYI: #define unreachable() __builtin_unreachable()

It shouldn't as *(int *)0 = 0; might trap.  But if you want to be sure
use
   __builtin_trap ();
instead for the whole sequence (the unreachable is implied then).
GCC choses a size-optimal trap representation for your target then.

Richard.

>
>> If GCC-4.5 does not, are you sure a future version of GCC will never
>> remove it?  In other words, is __builtin_unreachable() _defined_ in
>> such a way that it cannot remove the previous assignment?
>>
>> We have seen problems with GCC optimising away important tests for
>> NULL pointers in the kernel, due to similar propagation of "impossible
>> to occur" conditions, so it's worth checking with GCC people what the
>> effect of this one would be.
>>
>> In C, there is a general theoretical problem with back-propagation of
>> optimisations from code with undefined behaviour.  In the case of
>> __builtin_unreachable(), it would depend on all sorts of unclearly
>> defined semantics whether it can remove a preceding *(int *)0 = 0.
>>
>> I'd strongly suggest asking on the GCC list.  (I'd have mentioned this
>> earlier, if I'd known about the patch for other architectures).
>>
>> The documentation for __builtin_unreachable() only says the program is
>> undefined if control flow reaches it.  In other words, it does not say
>> what effect it can have on previous instructions, and I think it's
>> quite likely that it has not been analysed in a case like this.
>>
>> One thing that would give me a lot more confidence, because the GCC
>> documentation does mention asm(), is this:
>>
>>>      *(int *)0 = 0;
>>>      /* Ensure unreachableness optimisations cannot propagate back. *I/
>>>      __asm__ volatile("");
>>>      /* Avoid "noreturn function does return" */
>>>      unreachable();
>>
>> -- Jamie
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-17 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-08  9:55 Uwe Kleine-König
2009-12-08 17:07 ` David Daney
2009-12-10 17:50 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-10 17:55   ` David Daney
2009-12-16 13:58     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2009-12-17 15:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-17 17:09   ` David Daney
2009-12-17 17:17     ` Richard Guenther [this message]
2009-12-17 18:17       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 18:35         ` Joe Buck
2009-12-17 19:06           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:14             ` Joe Buck
2009-12-17 19:33               ` David Daney
2009-12-17 19:33               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:38               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-17 19:48                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:58                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-17 19:04         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 19:30         ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-21 20:10           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-22 14:09             ` Dave Korn
2009-12-22 14:12               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-12-22 14:49                 ` Dave Korn
2009-12-22 11:33       ` Paolo Bonzini

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