From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 967CD46C83F; Mon, 17 Aug 2026 18:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786990675; cv=none; b=U6u6U95F+YrezwgRg14esKoqvRNRln/Zx7zshwaVk2CwRsslvUodVNL+akL+wgHlNv+EhZnBuBKtrsypSGPjOomSAMRdYcnBxRmu2/JnxocQrAnchpcJtsEZRHHJGccqAYhqA3HA9tW6P0qdVBsAtRXbVyg+rfRYJFIyJIzVXbY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1786990675; c=relaxed/simple; bh=lEk6GCXBBkCqhFKLy29KY7FD8YO+BBuAySX7tzALNk0=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=BPCGLHHF8cV4u+zhVb6xK8F3GmspkNJe2Fdof46N7vm72Da9jHvFZLjsPLuqt0TyOzNxD1LXDe4L6mUbSRrqC8JL0VJbbkN2wbHggM9NxyFb1jLuDhYc3prciHkeOv+HZz0guUYp9smRYzp3xVS57b0gN0FH7Y2Qt4stpU6QQko= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=A87kljH6; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="A87kljH6" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 170771F000E9; Mon, 17 Aug 2026 18:17:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1786990673; bh=Lox5beP3DWjOeR55v0A2q5EwAzNvW2GMNuP3wFJiXQY=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=A87kljH6QMe1mfh+7tKpGwq/QvZDIPvgAdindrhBg5loAuQSdi4lJBo/TJEm8/rCD Hq9TK538xQfBYmvp+U4qA+iLRQsNk3U8jCmAGKDw4668yAX1hddzQPiEyFv9dx/qOu Kx+9FHDm7gLxQ5BHJbme0EZKN3G9iT6obOWoVZ2axosUzXy5TVbznsLJ6Y7DL8QGcS 2Ig1pfPDWN1ZQqLzOxaYT4aStDZIex2Vz2QaV/aStvDrUoh9tPfndeUQhRoAn9Um83 RTnvJV6cxo/gRIHAfRibgz2V10L9BO0qCAOa5ZoL3oA+i0xVcaag0tFXzxNvNmKmEg tY3UV22I8wDCw== Message-ID: <85302865-4181-43d4-9c38-eb6ac57e3aa7@kernel.org> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2026 20:17:37 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] lib/folio_pool: Direct-Map Large Folio Pool & Scratchpad bump allocators To: jim.cromie@gmail.com, Andrew Morton , Pablo Neira Ayuso , Florian Westphal , Phil Sutter , Alexei Starovoitov , Daniel Borkmann , Andrii Nakryiko , Eduard Zingerman , Danilo Krummrich , Matthew Brost , Boris Brezillon , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , Will Deacon , Waiman Long , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Simon Horman , Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi , Martin KaFai Lau , Song Liu , Yonghong Song , Jiri Olsa , Emil Tsalapatis , John Fastabend , =?UTF-8?Q?Thomas_Hellstr=C3=B6m?= , Alice Ryhl , Maarten Lankhorst , Maxime Ripard , Thomas Zimmermann , David Airlie , Simona Vetter , Boqun Feng , Matthew Wilcox , Zi Yan Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, coreteam@netfilter.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org References: <20260817-folio-pool-v1-v1-0-0c1d230aa3af@gmail.com> From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=david@kernel.org; keydata= xsFNBFXLn5EBEAC+zYvAFJxCBY9Tr1xZgcESmxVNI/0ffzE/ZQOiHJl6mGkmA1R7/uUpiCjJ dBrn+lhhOYjjNefFQou6478faXE6o2AhmebqT4KiQoUQFV4R7y1KMEKoSyy8hQaK1umALTdL QZLQMzNE74ap+GDK0wnacPQFpcG1AE9RMq3aeErY5tujekBS32jfC/7AnH7I0v1v1TbbK3Gp XNeiN4QroO+5qaSr0ID2sz5jtBLRb15RMre27E1ImpaIv2Jw8NJgW0k/D1RyKCwaTsgRdwuK Kx/Y91XuSBdz0uOyU/S8kM1+ag0wvsGlpBVxRR/xw/E8M7TEwuCZQArqqTCmkG6HGcXFT0V9 PXFNNgV5jXMQRwU0O/ztJIQqsE5LsUomE//bLwzj9IVsaQpKDqW6TAPjcdBDPLHvriq7kGjt WhVhdl0qEYB8lkBEU7V2Yb+SYhmhpDrti9Fq1EsmhiHSkxJcGREoMK/63r9WLZYI3+4W2rAc UucZa4OT27U5ZISjNg3Ev0rxU5UH2/pT4wJCfxwocmqaRr6UYmrtZmND89X0KigoFD/XSeVv jwBRNjPAubK9/k5NoRrYqztM9W6sJqrH8+UWZ1Idd/DdmogJh0gNC0+N42Za9yBRURfIdKSb B3JfpUqcWwE7vUaYrHG1nw54pLUoPG6sAA7Mehl3nd4pZUALHwARAQABzS5EYXZpZCBIaWxk ZW5icmFuZCAoQ3VycmVudCkgPGRhdmlkQGtlcm5lbC5vcmc+wsGQBBMBCAA6AhsDBQkmWAik AgsJBBUKCQgCFgICHgUCF4AWIQQb2cqtc1xMOkYN/MpN3hD3AP+DWgUCaYJt/AIZAQAKCRBN 3hD3AP+DWriiD/9BLGEKG+N8L2AXhikJg6YmXom9ytRwPqDgpHpVg2xdhopoWdMRXjzOrIKD g4LSnFaKneQD0hZhoArEeamG5tyo32xoRsPwkbpIzL0OKSZ8G6mVbFGpjmyDLQCAxteXCLXz ZI0VbsuJKelYnKcXWOIndOrNRvE5eoOfTt2XfBnAapxMYY2IsV+qaUXlO63GgfIOg8RBaj7x 3NxkI3rV0SHhI4GU9K6jCvGghxeS1QX6L/XI9mfAYaIwGy5B68kF26piAVYv/QZDEVIpo3t7 /fjSpxKT8plJH6rhhR0epy8dWRHk3qT5tk2P85twasdloWtkMZ7FsCJRKWscm1BLpsDn6EQ4 jeMHECiY9kGKKi8dQpv3FRyo2QApZ49NNDbwcR0ZndK0XFo15iH708H5Qja/8TuXCwnPWAcJ DQoNIDFyaxe26Rx3ZwUkRALa3iPcVjE0//TrQ4KnFf+lMBSrS33xDDBfevW9+Dk6IISmDH1R HFq2jpkN+FX/PE8eVhV68B2DsAPZ5rUwyCKUXPTJ/irrCCmAAb5Jpv11S7hUSpqtM/6oVESC 3z/7CzrVtRODzLtNgV4r5EI+wAv/3PgJLlMwgJM90Fb3CB2IgbxhjvmB1WNdvXACVydx55V7 LPPKodSTF29rlnQAf9HLgCphuuSrrPn5VQDaYZl4N/7zc2wcWM7BTQRVy5+RARAA59fefSDR 9nMGCb9LbMX+TFAoIQo/wgP5XPyzLYakO+94GrgfZjfhdaxPXMsl2+o8jhp/hlIzG56taNdt VZtPp3ih1AgbR8rHgXw1xwOpuAd5lE1qNd54ndHuADO9a9A0vPimIes78Hi1/yy+ZEEvRkHk /kDa6F3AtTc1m4rbbOk2fiKzzsE9YXweFjQvl9p+AMw6qd/iC4lUk9g0+FQXNdRs+o4o6Qvy iOQJfGQ4UcBuOy1IrkJrd8qq5jet1fcM2j4QvsW8CLDWZS1L7kZ5gT5EycMKxUWb8LuRjxzZ 3QY1aQH2kkzn6acigU3HLtgFyV1gBNV44ehjgvJpRY2cC8VhanTx0dZ9mj1YKIky5N+C0f21 zvntBqcxV0+3p8MrxRRcgEtDZNav+xAoT3G0W4SahAaUTWXpsZoOecwtxi74CyneQNPTDjNg azHmvpdBVEfj7k3p4dmJp5i0U66Onmf6mMFpArvBRSMOKU9DlAzMi4IvhiNWjKVaIE2Se9BY FdKVAJaZq85P2y20ZBd08ILnKcj7XKZkLU5FkoA0udEBvQ0f9QLNyyy3DZMCQWcwRuj1m73D sq8DEFBdZ5eEkj1dCyx+t/ga6x2rHyc8Sl86oK1tvAkwBNsfKou3v+jP/l14a7DGBvrmlYjO 59o3t6inu6H7pt7OL6u6BQj7DoMAEQEAAcLBfAQYAQgAJgIbDBYhBBvZyq1zXEw6Rg38yk3e EPcA/4NaBQJonNqrBQkmWAihAAoJEE3eEPcA/4NaKtMQALAJ8PzprBEXbXcEXwDKQu+P/vts IfUb1UNMfMV76BicGa5NCZnJNQASDP/+bFg6O3gx5NbhHHPeaWz/VxlOmYHokHodOvtL0WCC 8A5PEP8tOk6029Z+J+xUcMrJClNVFpzVvOpb1lCbhjwAV465Hy+NUSbbUiRxdzNQtLtgZzOV Zw7jxUCs4UUZLQTCuBpFgb15bBxYZ/BL9MbzxPxvfUQIPbnzQMcqtpUs21CMK2PdfCh5c4gS sDci6D5/ZIBw94UQWmGpM/O1ilGXde2ZzzGYl64glmccD8e87OnEgKnH3FbnJnT4iJchtSvx yJNi1+t0+qDti4m88+/9IuPqCKb6Stl+s2dnLtJNrjXBGJtsQG/sRpqsJz5x1/2nPJSRMsx9 5YfqbdrJSOFXDzZ8/r82HgQEtUvlSXNaXCa95ez0UkOG7+bDm2b3s0XahBQeLVCH0mw3RAQg r7xDAYKIrAwfHHmMTnBQDPJwVqxJjVNr7yBic4yfzVWGCGNE4DnOW0vcIeoyhy9vnIa3w1uZ 3iyY2Nsd7JxfKu1PRhCGwXzRw5TlfEsoRI7V9A8isUCoqE2Dzh3FvYHVeX4Us+bRL/oqareJ CIFqgYMyvHj7Q06kTKmauOe4Nf0l0qEkIuIzfoLJ3qr5UyXc2hLtWyT9Ir+lYlX9efqh7mOY qIws/H2t In-Reply-To: <20260817-folio-pool-v1-v1-0-0c1d230aa3af@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8/17/26 19:22, Jim Cromie via B4 Relay wrote: > Introduce two light-weight bump allocators backed directly by compound > folio pages from the buddy allocator (skipping SLUB metadata overhead): We are running into a bit of a naming problem here: folios are really supposed to describe things that we will map to user space, whereby we have to track mapping/index/mapcount etc. That's really just anon + pagecache memory. Right now that naming difference doesn't matter, because each compound page really is a folio. But once we start decoupling folios from the rest (memdescs), we really only expect anon+pagecache to resemble "folios". There will be other compound page types (similar to slab pages), and things like page_folio() will fail for them (like slab pages). And we are actually working on making page_folio() fail earlier for anything that didn't go through page_rmappable_folio() as part of the (folio) allocation. So, does what you do here fit the definition of folios, or is it really just some kind of compound pages? -- Cheers, David