From: "Abhishek Sagar" <sagar.abhishek@gmail.com>
To: "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
"Roland McGrath" <roland@redhat.com>,
"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@redhat.com>,
"Rusty Russell" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
"Jeremy Fitzhardinge" <jeremy@goop.org>,
"Gregory Haskins" <ghaskins@novell.com>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@redhat.com>,
"Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>,
"Clark Williams" <williams@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] ftrace: to kill a daemon
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:31:45 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <863e9df20808090801p7f9e11bar84d0e661440d591e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0808090854170.24140@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> Dynamically modifying text that might be in the pipeline on another CPU
> may or may not be dangerous on all archs.
Kprobes leaves this mess for individual archs to handle (see
arch_arm_kprobe). What would be nice to have is an explanation as to
which archs are safe from this and under what conditions. Also, for
!SMP, this boot-time patching approach and the associated build time
paraphernalia would simply be a bloat. There we can simply have a
daemonless ftrace which patches mcount sites synchronously. Why not
let each arch have this hinge on CONFIG_SMP?
> The fix here is to convert the mcount calls to nops at boot up. This is
> really ideal on all archs. This means we know ever mcount call, and we get
> rid of the requirement that we need to run the code once before we can
> trace it.
This solution indeed would fit all archs well but for some it may be
an overkill (or is it?...I'd like to know that :-\ ).
Oh and as you pointed out, it would mean that we have to no longer run
the code before starting to trace it. But why don't we do that now?
How about calling the tracer from ftrace_record_ip? All we need to do
is pass along the parent_ip from mcount.
> The kstop_machine is now only left at the start and stop of tracing.
This a nice fix. I'm just looking to find out what the self modifying
code problem here translates to on different archs for my own
understanding :-)
Thanks,
Abhishek Sagar
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-09 15:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-07 18:20 Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 18:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] ftrace: create __mcount_loc section Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 18:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] ftrace: mcount call site on boot nops core Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 18:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] ftrace: enable mcount recording for modules Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 6:43 ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-08 12:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 18:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] ftrace: rebuild everything on change to FTRACE_MCOUNT_RECORD Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 18:20 ` [PATCH 5/5] ftrace: enable using mcount recording on x86 Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 18:47 ` [PATCH 0/5] ftrace: to kill a daemon Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-07 20:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 17:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-08 17:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 17:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-08 18:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 18:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-08 18:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-08 19:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-08 23:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 0:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-09 0:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 0:47 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-09 0:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-09 1:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-13 6:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-13 15:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-13 17:52 ` Efficient x86 and x86_64 NOP microbenchmarks Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-13 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-13 18:41 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13 18:45 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-13 18:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13 18:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-13 19:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-13 19:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13 20:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-13 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH] x86 alternatives : fix LOCK_PREFIX race with preemptible kernel and CPU hotplug Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 0:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 1:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 1:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 1:26 ` Roland McGrath
2008-08-14 1:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 3:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 15:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 16:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-14 16:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 16:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 17:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 17:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 17:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 18:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 18:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 19:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 20:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 20:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 21:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 22:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 17:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 18:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 19:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 17:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 17:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 17:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-14 17:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 17:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-14 17:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-14 18:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-15 21:34 ` Efficient x86 and x86_64 NOP microbenchmarks Steven Rostedt
2008-08-15 21:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-09 0:51 ` [PATCH 0/5] ftrace: to kill a daemon Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 0:53 ` Roland McGrath
2008-08-09 1:13 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-09 1:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-09 1:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 1:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-09 2:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 2:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-09 4:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 0:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-11 18:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-11 19:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 19:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-11 2:41 ` Rusty Russell
2008-08-11 12:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 21:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-07 21:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-07 22:26 ` Roland McGrath
2008-08-08 1:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 1:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 1:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 7:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-08 11:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-08 4:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-08-09 9:48 ` Abhishek Sagar
2008-08-09 13:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 15:01 ` Abhishek Sagar [this message]
2008-08-09 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-09 17:14 ` Abhishek Sagar
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2008-08-07 21:28 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-08-07 21:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-08-07 21:35 ` Steven Rostedt
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