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From: Yazen Ghannam <yazen.ghannam@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: yazen.ghannam@amd.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/amd_nb: Check for invalid SMN reads
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 18:01:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <864f265d-08d3-88d8-c0c6-263ab0e10813@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83d4ad40-4812-0583-ba4a-da3e79732e51@amd.com>

On 4/5/23 3:10 PM, Yazen Ghannam wrote:
> On 4/5/23 14:32, Yazen Ghannam wrote:
>> On 4/5/23 14:06, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 03, 2023 at 05:36:40PM -0400, Yazen Ghannam wrote:
>>>> Yes, that's fine. Should I send another revision?
>>>
>>> On a second thought, I think we should do what you said in the write
>>> function too. Because the write can fail too. So if it can, we need to
>>> handle that potential error too.
>>>
>>> Care to send a new version which does this check in the read and in the
>>> write function? Basically what you had initially but with the write side
>>> check added too to amd_smn_write.
>>>
>>
>> Sure thing. I don't have a real test for the write path. But I'll test by
>> faking it.
>>
> 
> So I thought about it for a bit and quickly realized the "write and read back"
> method isn't robust when done here.
> 
> Possible issues:
> 1) Bits that are "Write-1-to-clear". In this case, we *don't* want the read to
> match the write.
> 2) Bits that are "Read-as-Zero"/"Writes-Ignored". We can't know this
> information here.
> 3) Bits that are "Reserved / Set to 1". Ditto above.
> 
> I think all these issues should be handled by the callers of amd_smn_write().
> They should do the "write and read back" check themselves, if needed.
> 
> For #1, they can see if their target bits got cleared.
> 
> For #2 and #3, they can check if their target bits got set as intended.
> 
> This matches what we do for rdmsr/wrmsr. As long as there's no #GP, then we're
> good, and the caller does their own checking.
> 
> The "PCI Error Response" for the SMN read is the only check that would apply
> to *any* SMN read. So I think that makes sense to do here instead of at each
> call site.
> 
> What do you think?
>

Hi Boris,

Just following up. What do you think about the points above? I can send
another revision for whichever way we need to go.

Thanks,
Yazen

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-08 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-03 16:42 Yazen Ghannam
2023-04-03 19:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-04-03 19:40   ` Yazen Ghannam
2023-04-03 20:36     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-04-03 21:36       ` Yazen Ghannam
2023-04-05 18:06         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-04-05 18:32           ` Yazen Ghannam
2023-04-05 19:10             ` Yazen Ghannam
2023-05-08 22:01               ` Yazen Ghannam [this message]
2023-05-10 11:35               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-05-10 13:56                 ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-06-05 19:40 ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Yazen Ghannam

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