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From: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@huawei.com>
To: Pierre Gondois <pierre.gondois@arm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>, <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>, <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	<will@kernel.org>, <tglx@linutronix.de>, <peterz@infradead.org>,
	<mpe@ellerman.id.au>, <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <bp@alien8.de>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	<msuchanek@suse.de>, <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	<rafael@kernel.org>, <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
	<prime.zeng@hisilicon.com>, <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	<xuwei5@huawei.com>, <guohanjun@huawei.com>,
	<sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 3/4] arm64: topology: Support SMT control on ACPI based system
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 17:01:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86e32fb3-0ff5-f4f0-3d44-222e63b5a69f@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <153df413-9989-42fe-b574-598ff0fa9716@arm.com>

On 2025/3/4 23:07, Pierre Gondois wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/4/25 11:02, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 09:25:02AM +0100, Pierre Gondois wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/3/25 15:40, Yicong Yang wrote:
>>>> On 2025/3/3 19:16, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 10:56:12AM +0100, Pierre Gondois wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/28/25 20:06, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ditto as previous patch, can get rid if it is default 1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On non-SMT platforms, not calling cpu_smt_set_num_threads() leaves
>>>>>>>> cpu_smt_num_threads uninitialized to UINT_MAX:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> smt/active:0
>>>>>>>> smt/control:-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If cpu_smt_set_num_threads() is called:
>>>>>>>> active:0
>>>>>>>> control:notsupported
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it might be slightly better to still initialize max_smt_thread_num.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, what I meant is to have max_smt_thread_num set to 1 by default is
>>>>>>> that is what needed anyways and the above code does that now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not start with initialised to 1 instead ?
>>>>>>> Of course some current logic needs to change around testing it for zero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there would still be a way to check against the default value.
>>>>>> If we have:
>>>>>> unsigned int max_smt_thread_num = 1;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then on a platform with 2 threads, the detection condition would trigger:
>>>>>> xa_for_each(&hetero_cpu, hetero_id, entry) {
>>>>>>       if (entry->thread_num != max_smt_thread_num && max_smt_thread_num)     <---- (entry->thread_num=2) and (max_smt_thread_num=1)
>>>>>>           pr_warn_once("Heterogeneous SMT topology is partly
>>>>>>                         supported by SMT control\n");
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so we would need an additional variable:
>>>>>> bool is_initialized = false;
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, we could do that or skip the check if max_smt_thread_num == 1 ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean
>>>>>     if (entry->thread_num != max_smt_thread_num && max_smt_thread_num != 1)
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I think it will be problematic if we parse:
>>> - first a CPU with 1 thread
>>> - then a CPU with 2 threads
>>>
>>> in that case we should detect the 'Heterogeneous SMT topology',
>>> but we cannot because we don't know whether max_smt_thread_num=1
>>> because 1 is the default value or we found a CPU with one thread.
>>
>> Right, but as per Dietmar's and my previous response, it may be a valid
>> case. See latest response from Dietmar which is explicitly requesting
>> support for this. It may need some special handling if we decide to support
>> that.
> 
> Ah ok, right indeed.
> For heterogeneous SMT platforms, the 'smt/control' file is able to accept
> on/off/forceoff strings. But providing the max #count of threads as an integer would
> be wrong if the CPU doesn't have this #count of threads.
> 
> Initially the idea was to just warn that support might be needed for heterogeneous
> SMT platforms, and let whoever would have such platform solve this case, but just
> disabling the integer interface in this case would solve the issue generically.
> 

ok so let's regard the asymmetric platform as a valid case as suggested (also mentioned
by Dietmar on another thread) and remove the check here. Will update and test.

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-18 14:10 [PATCH v11 0/4] Support SMT control on arm64 Yicong Yang
2025-02-18 14:10 ` [PATCH v11 1/4] cpu/SMT: Provide a default topology_is_primary_thread() Yicong Yang
2025-02-28 11:10   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-03-03 13:35     ` Yicong Yang
2025-02-28 13:54   ` Sudeep Holla
2025-03-03 13:38     ` Yicong Yang
2025-02-18 14:10 ` [PATCH v11 2/4] arch_topology: Support SMT control for OF based system Yicong Yang
2025-02-28 11:11   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-03-03 14:03     ` Yicong Yang
2025-03-04  9:32       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-28 13:54   ` Sudeep Holla
2025-03-03 14:11     ` Yicong Yang
2025-02-18 14:10 ` [PATCH v11 3/4] arm64: topology: Support SMT control on ACPI " Yicong Yang
2025-02-25  6:08   ` Hanjun Guo
2025-03-03 14:42     ` Yicong Yang
2025-02-28 11:11   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-02-28 13:56   ` Sudeep Holla
2025-02-28 17:51     ` Pierre Gondois
2025-02-28 19:06       ` Sudeep Holla
2025-03-03  9:56         ` Pierre Gondois
2025-03-03 11:16           ` Sudeep Holla
2025-03-03 14:40             ` Yicong Yang
2025-03-04  8:25               ` Pierre Gondois
2025-03-04 10:02                 ` Sudeep Holla
2025-03-04 15:07                   ` Pierre Gondois
2025-03-05  9:01                     ` Yicong Yang [this message]
2025-02-18 14:10 ` [PATCH v11 4/4] arm64: Kconfig: Enable HOTPLUG_SMT Yicong Yang
2025-02-28 11:12 ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Support SMT control on arm64 Dietmar Eggemann
2025-03-03 14:41   ` Yicong Yang

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