From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E65B1FECCF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1733323451; cv=none; b=NN7xd4BkvIkP1aYi1l5jcZkwYlWZzOjUBKhg7Oad/Q5Ie5QmQjzah3wiMd5n2BWbbFZFzmlSZOVAthyM/QUxr9Z4CPH9H5glgp8xRUaym4AxE7eTdQStWruH20YCcUee0RhDx45vygMLsLZpPGL+um2ofEBMljUc8ETttFp15F0= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1733323451; c=relaxed/simple; bh=46Z+0L3Ezl1nEU0WOzGgLjKKbkTUHUDezy6UcLo3ymg=; h=Date:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S8YD6IZJ4B0iClM22v4R4sA9o/UMyHajeLgW/pE8E4x2KJOrVIf/Kvj6V/w4MTUKD+tljJhek5fnI9jJW5h3ZxkTdRFxTjVgOZzk4HWv/IS5OFYrNpfImLAFqOSRJwsyKF51nbWPfMlv7DSmlLypmqjiyKNPTQUl0i4iPAyu0MI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=lrC+cOU9; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="lrC+cOU9" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB475C4CECD; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:44:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1733323451; bh=46Z+0L3Ezl1nEU0WOzGgLjKKbkTUHUDezy6UcLo3ymg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=lrC+cOU9t2aIN5VGnd60OD+O5OJYkXOlFjiIlZUs4x6xIjD0MNV46qY16lYhhdsoW q+m9EwjaUJ5LDOLFDA1EJdRIYx2iqGOpRJYoz0+yeqyR3sL6EBlI3I982mqgPm6aZ8 BqwiImmwKE3CzxPsJpBrBeJV+u5ooIX5JDo3+edGWi0Mq0gZ45wJum4tUhUklW5ITG WXffdHgSfZkWXS9UoOmICEWA1mRpj4D6hYucu1bxhfec/n5s0T77Qtv7gH5p7ZHdnI A6tNs2fNlA6FUerhX0F8LvRSL/WjnuAAcbMb6Bpz1c1JEhhXWnm6yVi2erZ3C9hfVU lLU8WlTnsS0qg== Received: from sofa.misterjones.org ([185.219.108.64] helo=goblin-girl.misterjones.org) by disco-boy.misterjones.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1tIqbo-000TUi-LZ; Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:44:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:44:07 +0000 Message-ID: <86ldwvtsnc.wl-maz@kernel.org> From: Marc Zyngier To: Linus Walleij Cc: Arnd Bergmann , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Arnd Bergmann , Aaro Koskinen , Andrew Lunn , Ard Biesheuvel , Daniel Mack , Gregory Clement , Haojian Zhuang , "Jeremy J. Peper" , Kristoffer Ericson , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Mark Brown , Ralph Siemsen , Robert Jarzmik , Russell King , Sebastian Hesselbarth , Tony Lindgren Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/15] ARM: mark footbridge as deprecated In-Reply-To: References: <20241204102904.1863796-1-arnd@kernel.org> <20241204102904.1863796-16-arnd@kernel.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM-LB/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL-LB/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/29.4 (aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 185.219.108.64 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: linus.walleij@linaro.org, arnd@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, arnd@arndb.de, aaro.koskinen@iki.fi, andrew@lunn.ch, ardb@kernel.org, daniel@zonque.org, gregory.clement@bootlin.com, haojian.zhuang@gmail.com, jeremy@jeremypeper.com, kristoffer.ericson@gmail.com, krzk@kernel.org, broonie@kernel.org, ralph.siemsen@linaro.org, robert.jarzmik@free.fr, linux@armlinux.org.uk, sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com, tony@atomide.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: maz@kernel.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on disco-boy.misterjones.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:29:09 +0000, Linus Walleij wrote: >=20 > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 11:30=E2=80=AFAM Arnd Bergmann w= rote: >=20 > > From: Arnd Bergmann > > > > Along with RiscPC and SA1100, these are the last remaining Intel Strong= ARM > > machines. The Corel NetWinder used to be particular popular in the late > > 1990s, but was discontinued during the bankruptcy of rebel.com in 2001. > > The other machine is the DEC (later Intel) EBSA285 evaluation board that > > was made in small numbers in 1997 for software developers. >=20 > IIRC David Rusling at DEC was sending this board out to interested > developers. >=20 > > The footbridge/netwinder platform was the main target for the first Deb= ian > > 2.0 "Hamm" release on the Arm architecture back in 1998, but was dropped > > in Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" in 2011, which only supported ARMv4T and higher > > with the EABI based ports as ARMv4 hardware had fallen already out of > > use by that time. > > > > Link: http://netwinder.org/ > > Cc: Linus Walleij > > Cc: Russell King > > Cc: Ralph Siemsen > > Signed-off-by: Arnd Bergmann >=20 > I am booting it occasionally, last time to test my KCFI patches. > But admittedly that is only to test it for other SA110 users. I remember > that Christoph had problems consolidating the DMA used in this > machine as well so it is standing in the way of useful work. >=20 > Apart from Ralph and me I know Marc Z has been known to boot > this machine, so paging him as well. I won't be crying. It's probably been a couple of years since I last switched it on, and it is IMO ready to join the DEC Shark on the shelf of "used to be great" HW. FWIW, Acked-by: Marc Zyngier M. --=20 Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.