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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Zhenhua Huang <quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com>,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com
Cc: will@kernel.org, ardb@kernel.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	chenfeiyang@loongson.cn, chenhuacai@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, quic_tingweiz@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] arm64: mm: Populate vmemmap at the page level if not section aligned
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:30:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871c0dae-c419-4ac2-9472-6901aab90dcf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce2bd045-3e3a-42bf-9a48-9ad806ff3765@quicinc.com>

On 17.02.25 11:34, Zhenhua Huang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2025/2/17 17:44, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 17.02.25 10:29, Zhenhua Huang wrote:
>>> On the arm64 platform with 4K base page config, SECTION_SIZE_BITS is set
>>> to 27, making one section 128M. The related page struct which vmemmap
>>> points to is 2M then.
>>> Commit c1cc1552616d ("arm64: MMU initialisation") optimizes the
>>> vmemmap to populate at the PMD section level which was suitable
>>> initially since hot plug granule is always one section(128M). However,
>>> commit ba72b4c8cf60 ("mm/sparsemem: support sub-section hotplug")
>>> introduced a 2M(SUBSECTION_SIZE) hot plug granule, which disrupted the
>>> existing arm64 assumptions.
>>>
>>> The first problem is that if start or end is not aligned to a section
>>> boundary, such as when a subsection is hot added, populating the entire
>>> section is wasteful.
>>>
>>> The Next problem is if we hotplug something that spans part of 128 MiB
>>> section (subsections, let's call it memblock1), and then hotplug
>>> something
>>> that spans another part of a 128 MiB section(subsections, let's call it
>>> memblock2), and subsequently unplug memblock1, vmemmap_free() will clear
>>> the entire PMD entry which also supports memblock2 even though memblock2
>>> is still active.
>>>
>>> Assuming hotplug/unplug sizes are guaranteed to be symmetric. Do the
>>> fix similar to x86-64: populate to pages levels if start/end is not
>>> aligned
>>> with section boundary.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Zhenhua Huang <quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com>
>>> ---
>>>    arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c | 3 ++-
>>>    1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>> index b4df5bc5b1b8..eec1666da368 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>> @@ -1178,7 +1178,8 @@ int __meminit vmemmap_populate(unsigned long
>>> start, unsigned long end, int node,
>>>    {
>>>        WARN_ON((start < VMEMMAP_START) || (end > VMEMMAP_END));
>>> -    if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARM64_4K_PAGES))
>>> +    if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_ARM64_4K_PAGES) ||
>>> +        (end - start < PAGES_PER_SECTION * sizeof(struct page)))
>>>            return vmemmap_populate_basepages(start, end, node, altmap);
>>>        else
>>>            return vmemmap_populate_hugepages(start, end, node, altmap);
>>
>> Yes, this does mimic what x86 does. That handling does look weird,
>> because it
>> doesn't care about any address alignments, only about the size, which is
>> odd.
>>
>> I wonder if we could do better and move this handling
>> into vmemmap_populate_hugepages(), where we already have a fallback
>> to vmemmap_populate_basepages().
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> I had the same doubt initially.
> After going through the codes, I noticed for vmemmap_populate(), the
> arguments "start" and "end" passed down should already be within one
> section.
> early path:
> for_each_present_section_nr
> 	__populate_section_memmap
> 		..
> 		vmemmap_populate()
> 
> hotplug path:
> __add_pages
> 	section_activate
> 		vmemmap_populate()
> 
> Therefore.. focusing only on the size seems OK to me, and fall back
> solution below appears unnecessary?

Ah, in that case it is fine. Might make sense to document/enforce that 
somehow for the time being ...


>> +/*
>> + * Try to populate PMDs, but fallback to populating base pages when ranges
>> + * would only partially cover a PMD.
>> + */
>>    int __meminit vmemmap_populate_hugepages(unsigned long start, unsigned
>> long end,
>>                                            int node, struct vmem_altmap
>> *altmap)
>>    {
>> @@ -313,6 +317,9 @@ int __meminit vmemmap_populate_hugepages(unsigned
>> long start, unsigned long end,
>>           for (addr = start; addr < end; addr = next) {
> 
> This for loop appears to be redundant for arm64 as well, as above
> mentioned, a single call to pmd_addr_end() should suffice.

Right, that was what was confusing me in the first place.

> 
>>                   next = pmd_addr_end(addr, end);
>>
>> +               if (!IS_ALIGNED(addr, PMD_SIZE) || !IS_ALIGNED(next,
>> PMD_SIZE))
>> +                       goto fallback;
>> +
>>                   pgd = vmemmap_pgd_populate(addr, node);
>>                   if (!pgd)
>>                           return -ENOMEM;
>> @@ -346,6 +353,7 @@ int __meminit vmemmap_populate_hugepages(unsigned
>> long start, unsigned long end,
>>                           }
>>                   } else if (vmemmap_check_pmd(pmd, node, addr, next))
>>                           continue;
>> +fallback:
>>                   if (vmemmap_populate_basepages(addr, next, node, altmap))
>>                           return -ENOMEM;
> 
> It seems we have no chance to call populate_basepages here?


Can you elaborate?


-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-17 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-17  9:29 Zhenhua Huang
2025-02-17  9:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-17 10:34   ` Zhenhua Huang
2025-02-17 14:30     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-02-18  3:07       ` Zhenhua Huang
2025-02-26 17:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03  9:29           ` Zhenhua Huang

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