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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, paul@clubi.ie,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, vph@iki.fi, toon@hout.vanvergehaald.nl,
	admin@wolfpaw.net, kaukasoi@elektroni.ee.tut.fi,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.27 SECURITY BUG - TCP Local and REMOTE(verified) Denial of Service Attack
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:04:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871xgvie1y.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040921125645.05fafd5a.davem@davemloft.net> (David S. Miller's message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2004 12:56:45 -0700")

* David S. Miller:

> On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:32:12 +0200
> Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> wrote:
>
>> > But then you get PMTU problems...
>> 
>> PMTU discovery is not an issue because it's turned off anyway, at
>> least by default.
>
> It's on by default, for both TCP and UDP in the kernel,
> and has been so for a long time.

Linux is not the reference TCP/IP stack for routers. 8-)

> Why would it be off by default?

Probably because PMTUD is just a DRAFT STANDARD, and these router
folks are usually extremely conservative.  Switching the default is
dangerous because it's likely to break existing setups, as Herbert
noted.

> If you disable PMTU discovery, say goodbye to TCP performance.

Indeed.  On those platforms, the CPU impact is also significant, and
the overall increase in BGP convergence time is measurable.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-21 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <02a401c498e9$9167aff0$0300a8c0@s>
2004-09-12 17:29 ` Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
2004-09-12 17:04   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-12 19:23     ` Toon van der Pas
2004-09-13  3:18       ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-13  3:30         ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-13  4:18           ` Willy Tarreau
2004-09-13  4:25             ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-13 19:07             ` Tonnerre
2004-09-13 19:18               ` Willy Tarreau
2004-09-13 19:25               ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-13 20:11           ` Ville Hallivuori
2004-09-14 14:55             ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-14 15:10               ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 16:26                 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-14 16:09                   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-14 17:17                     ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-20 22:02                       ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-21  2:14                         ` Herbert Xu
2004-09-21 18:32                           ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-21 19:56                             ` David S. Miller
2004-09-21 20:04                               ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2004-09-21 20:25                                 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-21 20:51                                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-14 19:41                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-09-14 18:56                   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-20 22:03                 ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-20 23:12                   ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <02bf01c498ff$b6512470$0300a8c0@s>
2004-09-12 19:42 ` Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
2004-09-12 19:53   ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found] <02b001c498f6$7942bc50$0300a8c0@s>
2004-09-12 18:52 ` Linux 2.4.27 SECURITY BUG - TCP Local and REMOTE(verified)Denial " Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
2004-09-12 18:06   ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <02b201c498f6$8bb92540$0300a8c0@s>
2004-09-12 18:40 ` Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
2004-09-12 18:01   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-12 19:48   ` Willy Tarreau
2004-09-13  6:59   ` Jurjen Oskam
     [not found] <029201c498d8$dff156f0$0300a8c0@s>
2004-09-12 15:45 ` Linux 2.4.27 SECURITY BUG - TCP Local and REMOTE(verified) Denial " Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
2004-09-12 16:47   ` Petri Kaukasoina
2004-09-12 17:59   ` Willy Tarreau
2004-09-12 17:17     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-12 18:18     ` Willy Tarreau

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