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From: "Bjørn Mork" <bjorn@mork.no>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5@gmail.com>,
	"Richard Purdie" <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
	"Jacek Anaszewski" <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>,
	"Felipe Balbi" <balbi@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Chen" <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>,
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	"Rafał Miłecki" <rafal@milecki.pl>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <mbrugger@suse.com>,
	"Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] leds: trigger: Introduce an USB port trigger
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:39:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8737lsy9pf.fsf@miraculix.mork.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160825125305.GB15567@kroah.com> (Greg KH's message of "Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:53:05 -0400")

Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 07:14:52AM +0200, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
>>
>> Good question. I would like to extend this USB port trigger in the
>> future by reacting to USB activity. This involves playing with URBs
>> and I believe that at that point it'd be getting too much USB specific
>> to /rule them all/.
>
> Oh that's never going to work, sorry.  USB "activity" happens deep in
> USB host controller hardware, not up at the kernel level at all.  It's
> just too fast, and would take up too much CPU to do it otherwise.  Heck,
> even old UHCI 1.1 USB controllers did this.
>
> USB "activity" happens all the time, look at a USB bus analyzer if you
> want to see what goes on.  Teasing out what is "real data" and what is
> just "normal bus activity" is impossible at the kernel level,

OK, I am going to play stupid again: Does this mean that usbmon is
impossible?

> and really
> makes no sense at all (your led would just be "on" all the time.)

I don't see how this is any different from e.g. the network activity
triggers.

FWIW, on my system "cat /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/0u" can be silent
for long periods, and show a rush of lines whenever there is USB
activity.  I imagine that a LED triggered by a hook in a similar place
would be useful on systems with LEDs for that sort of stuff.


Bjørn

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-25 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-23 22:03 Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-24  9:21 ` Greg KH
2016-08-24  9:26   ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-24 21:04     ` Greg KH
2016-08-24  9:22 ` Greg KH
2016-08-24  9:29   ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-24 21:04     ` Greg KH
2016-08-25  5:14       ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-25 12:53         ` Greg KH
2016-08-25 18:39           ` Bjørn Mork [this message]
2016-08-25 20:55             ` Greg KH
2016-08-24 10:49 ` Matthias Brugger
2016-08-24 11:02   ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-24 11:27     ` Matthias Brugger
2016-08-24 17:52 ` [PATCH RFC V3.5] " Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-24 18:48   ` Bjørn Mork
2016-08-24 20:42     ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-25  8:03   ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-08-25  8:27     ` Matthias Brugger
2016-08-25  8:29     ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-25  9:04       ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-08-25 14:30         ` Alan Stern
2016-08-25 18:48           ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-08-25 19:35             ` Alan Stern
2016-08-25 20:08               ` Alan Stern
2016-08-26 15:58             ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-29  7:41               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-08-29  8:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-29  8:21                   ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-29  8:41                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-29  9:01                       ` Rafał Miłecki
2016-08-26 19:50             ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-29  8:29               ` Jacek Anaszewski
2016-08-26 19:48         ` Pavel Machek
2016-08-25  8:32     ` Rafał Miłecki

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