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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: lib/chacha20poly1305 - Set SG_MITER_ATOMIC unconditionally
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 21:04:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874kny6evy.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200915101043.GA27327@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Tue, Sep 15 2020 at 20:10, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 01:08:31PM +0300, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>
>> But making atomic kmap preemptible/sleepable creates the exact same
>> problem, i.e., that we have no idea which existing callers are
>> currently relying on those preemption disabling semantics, so we can't
>> just take them away. Or am I missing something?
>
> Good point.
>
> Thomas mentioned that RT has been doing this for a while now so
> perhaps someone has studied this problem already? Thomas?

RT is substituting preempt_disable() with migrate_disable() which pins
the task on the CPU so that per CPU stuff still works. And we did quite
some staring whether there is code which purely relies on the
preempt_disable() to prevent reentrancy, but there is almost none.

Though we don't have migrate disable on !RT and PeterZ is not a great
fan of making it available as it wreckages schedulability - though IMO
not much more than preempt disable :)

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-15 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200914204209.256266093@linutronix.de>
     [not found] ` <20200914204441.579902354@linutronix.de>
2020-09-15 16:10   ` [patch 06/13] locking/bitspinlock: Clenaup PREEMPT_COUNT leftovers Will Deacon
     [not found] ` <20200914204441.375753691@linutronix.de>
2020-09-15 16:11   ` [patch 04/13] lockdep: " Will Deacon
     [not found] ` <CAHk-=win80rdof8Pb=5k6gT9j_v+hz-TQzKPVastZDvBe9RimQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-09-15 17:25   ` [patch 00/13] preempt: Make preempt count unconditional Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]   ` <871rj4owfn.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
     [not found]     ` <CAHk-=wj0eUuVQ=hRFZv_nY7g5ZLt7Fy3K7SMJL0ZCzniPtsbbg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CAHk-=wjOV6f_ddg+QVCF6RUe+pXPhSR2WevnNyOs9oT+q2ihEA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-09-15  3:30         ` [PATCH] crypto: lib/chacha20poly1305 - Set SG_MITER_ATOMIC unconditionally Herbert Xu
2020-09-15  6:03           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-15  6:40             ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-15  6:45           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15  6:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15  7:05               ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-15  7:10                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-15  9:34                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-15 10:02                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-15 10:05                     ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-15 10:08                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-15 10:10                         ` Herbert Xu
2020-09-15 19:04                           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-09-15  7:08               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-15  6:20         ` [patch 00/13] preempt: Make preempt count unconditional Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]           ` <20200915062253.GA26275@gondor.apana.org.au>
2020-09-15  6:39             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15  7:24               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-15 17:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15  8:39       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-15 17:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 19:57           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-16 18:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-16  7:37           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 15:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-16 18:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-16 20:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-17  6:38                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-09-16 20:29               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 20:58                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-16 21:43                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 22:39                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-17  7:52                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 16:28                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-29  8:19                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29  8:19                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29  8:20                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29  8:21                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29  8:23                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29  9:00                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-29 14:54                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-16 19:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-16 20:48       ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found] ` <20200914204441.268144917@linutronix.de>
2020-09-16 10:56   ` [patch 03/13] preempt: Clenaup PREEMPT_COUNT leftovers Valentin Schneider
     [not found] ` <20200914204441.794954043@linutronix.de>
2020-09-16 10:56   ` [patch 08/13] sched: " Valentin Schneider

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