From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Kyle Zeng <kylebot@openai.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, lukas.maar@tugraz.at,
outbounddisclosures@openai.com, Kyle Zeng <kylebot@openai.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] futex: Use a keyed hash for global futex buckets
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 23:37:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a4o51knt.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261019183334.29433-1-kylebot@openai.com>
On Mon, Oct 19 2026 at 11:33, Kyle Zeng wrote:
> The global futex hash is a public jhash2 of the key, which for private
> and shared-anonymous futexes includes an mm_struct pointer. A task can
> populate a bucket with futex_waitv() and time nonmatching wakes to learn
> which chosen user addresses collide. Shared-file keys have predictable
> inode sequence numbers, so the task can also identify the bucket and
> turn those timings into constraints on current->mm.
>
> Lukas Maar, Jonas Juffinger, Thomas Steinbauer, Daniel Gruss, and Stefan
> Mangard described this futex mm_struct disclosure in KernelSnitch at
> NDSS 2025. Section VI-B recovers the pointer by observing futex hash
> collisions and evaluating jhash2 offline.
>
> The per-mm private hash does not prevent this: a task can disable it
> through PR_FUTEX_HASH. NUMA-routed private futexes and shared-anonymous
> keys also use the global hash.
>
> Use SipHash-2-4 with a boot-time random key for global bucket selection.
> Hash the three identity fields individually, without padding or the
> separately handled NUMA node. Keep the original futex keys and equality
> checks, and leave the per-mm hash, which only hashes userspace addresses
> and offsets, unchanged. Initialize the secret before the global tables
> are made available and keep it fixed for their lifetime.
Fine. Did you evaluate the performance impact of this change?
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-22 21:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-06 22:24 [PATCH] " Kyle Zeng
2026-10-19 18:33 ` [PATCH v2] " Kyle Zeng
2026-10-22 21:37 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
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