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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
Cc: Fuad Tabba <fuad.tabba@linux.dev>,
	Yuchao Zhang <ndaugoing@gmail.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: vgic: Do not remove in-flight LPIs from AP list on disable
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 00:54:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a4pb4gxf.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aq2N7HYbQw7zbpCq@kernel.org>

On Fri, 18 Sep 2026 20:15:56 +0100,
Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 12:58:17PM +0100, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> > Hi Yuchao,
> > 
> > On Fri, 18 Sept 2026 at 12:51, Yuchao Zhang <ndaugoing@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Fuad,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for pointing me to that thread! I was not aware of
> > > Hyunwoo's earlier report and the discussion with Oliver and Marc.
> > >
> > > I'll read through the thread and their rationale on the ap_list_lock
> > > approach. I'm happy to defer to Hyunwoo's effort to avoid duplicate
> > > work.
> > 
> > I'm not sure you should defer to their effort. It doesn't seem like
> > Hyunwoo has done any work on this for a while. I just wanted to point
> > you to the existing discussion.
> 
> Yuchao if you have cycles I would definitely appreciate it if you can
> pursue a fix. My view hasn't changed since before: let's make that
> traversal of the ap_list is done under the ap_list_lock, as this is not
> intended to be walked lock-free.
> 
> Taking a step back, the whole cross-vCPU LPI disabling always leaves me
> feeling ill... Really when RWP=0 becomes visible from another vCPU we
> need to guarantee that the LPIs have been actually retired, meaning we
> can't have one sitting in an LR. Even with the locking fix I think we
> miss this.
> 
> Given how unlikely it is for well-behaved software to disable LPIs
> remotely in the first place, I wonder if we should just halt the VM
> similar to how we handle accesses to the active state. That's a really
> big hammer but we've had a lot of bugs in this department and I'm
> somewhat biased towards an obviously correct solution.

Irrespective of the whole ap_list_lock issue, I think this is the only
valid option. Messing with the ap_list of another vcpu while it is
running can never result in something that actually works. There's a
hack doing that in my tree.

> We wouldn't need to do this for a vCPU disabling LPIs on its own
> redistributor since we've already exited the guest.

In general, we could stop the target vcpu only. But this is making
things more complex, and I quite like the idea of a large
hammer... ;-)

	M.

-- 
Jazz isn't dead. It just smells funny.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-20 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-18  4:02 [PATCH v2 0/1] KVM: arm64: vgic: fix UAF/crash on remote LPI disable zjamg
2026-09-18  4:02 ` [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: vgic: Do not remove in-flight LPIs from AP list on disable zjamg
2026-09-18  7:22   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-18 11:50     ` Yuchao Zhang
2026-09-18 11:58       ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-18 19:15         ` Oliver Upton
2026-09-20 23:54           ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2026-09-20  1:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] KVM: arm64: vgic: Drop last_lr_irq and serialize overflow EOI replay Yuchao Zhang
2026-09-20  1:49   ` [PATCH v3] " Yuchao Zhang
2026-09-20 23:47   ` [PATCH v3 0/1] " Marc Zyngier

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