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From: John Meneghini <jmeneghi@redhat.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Linux regressions mailing list" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Pankaj Raghav" <p.raghav@samsung.com>,
	"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	"Clemens S." <cspringsguth@gmail.com>,
	"Martin Belanger" <martin.belanger@dell.com>,
	"Chaitanya Kulkarni" <kch@nvidia.com>,
	"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux NVMe" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	"Javier Gonzalez" <javier.gonz@samsung.com>,
	박진환 <jh.i.park@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Need NVME QUIRK BOGUS for SAMSUNG MZ1WV480HCGL-000MV (Samsung SM-953 Datacenter SSD)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 18:07:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87b925cb-6393-ca9b-6549-b3ba85ad54fc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZK2PgNizcMLW+S/V@kbusch-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

Yes, this is what I thought.  This is all the result of the duplicate NID check added to deal with TP4034 Dispersed Namespaces.

One suggestion I have would be to limit this check to nvme-of subsystems only. These are the only devices I am aware of out 
there which support TP4034.  Moreover, all nvme-of devices report a valid NID.  It's required with NVMe Over Fabrics. The PCIe 
devices, I expect, don't care. You don't really need a valid NID with a private namespace - which is what most PCIe devices are.

I'll wager that if you change nvme_global_check_duplicate_ids() to check only nvme-of subsystems, and simply continue with PCIe 
subsystems, 90% of these nvme quirks can be removed.

John Meneghini
Senior Principal Platform Storage Engineer
RHEL SST - Platform Storage Group
jmeneghi@redhat.com

On 7/11/23 13:21, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 09:47:00AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 05:06, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
>> For example, we have this completely unacceptable garbage:
>>
>>          ret = nvme_global_check_duplicate_ids(ctrl->subsys, &info->ids);
>>          if (ret) {
>>                  dev_err(ctrl->device,
>>                          "globally duplicate IDs for nsid %d\n", info->nsid);
>>                  nvme_print_device_info(ctrl);
>>                  return ret;
>>          }
>>
>> iow, the code even checks for and *notices* that there are duplicate
>> IDs, and what does it do? It then errors out.
> 
> This check came from a recent half-baked spec feature called "Dispersed
> Namespaces" that caused breakage and data corruption when used in Linux.
> Rather than attempt to support that mostly vendor specific feature, the
> driver attempted to fence that off as unmaintainable. This check wasn't
> aimed at enforcing "correctness", but it certainly found a lot of that
> as collatoral damage. Let's see if we can find a better way to detect
> the difference with a sane fallback as you suggest.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-11 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-26  1:15 Bagas Sanjaya
     [not found] ` <8f4e6d32-55b3-9df5-de91-1afbcb30ce13@nvidia.com>
2023-06-26 18:26   ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-06-27 16:10 ` Keith Busch
     [not found]   ` <9b778d59-c8d5-b037-0eb7-34cee5f273cc@samsung.com>
2023-06-30 15:18     ` Clemens Springsguth
2023-06-30 16:21       ` Pankaj Raghav
2023-07-03 13:25         ` Clemens Springsguth
2023-07-10  8:52   ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-07-10 15:58     ` Keith Busch
     [not found]       ` <f0fdf86e-4293-8e07-835d-b5a866252068@samsung.com>
2023-07-11  9:39         ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-07-11 12:06           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-11 12:14             ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-07-11 14:12               ` Greg KH
2023-07-11 14:39                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-07-11 15:33             ` Keith Busch
2023-07-11 16:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-11 17:21               ` Keith Busch
2023-07-11 22:07                 ` John Meneghini [this message]
2023-07-12  7:38                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-07-12 16:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-12 16:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-12 16:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-12 16:57                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-12 17:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-13 11:44                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-13 16:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-16 19:19         ` August Wikerfors

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