From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B20C2D0DB for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F99D20707 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 19:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726387AbgAaTre (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Jan 2020 14:47:34 -0500 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([193.142.43.55]:56602 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726017AbgAaTre (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Jan 2020 14:47:34 -0500 Received: from 51.26-246-81.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be ([81.246.26.51] helo=nanos.tec.linutronix.de) by Galois.linutronix.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ixcGH-0004bP-D1; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:47:29 +0100 Received: by nanos.tec.linutronix.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5171C105BDC; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:47:23 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Eric Dumazet , Will Deacon Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" , the arch/x86 maintainers , LKML , Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: Confused about hlist_unhashed_lockless() In-Reply-To: References: <20200131164308.GA5175@willie-the-truck> <20200131165718.GA5517@willie-the-truck> <20200131172058.GB5517@willie-the-truck> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:47:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87blqj4ddg.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Eric Dumazet writes: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 9:21 AM Will Deacon wrote: >> Without serialisation, timer_pending() as currently implemented does >> not reliably tell you whether the timer is in the hlist. Is that not a >> problem? > > No it is not a problem. Even if we would take the base lock then this is just a snapshot, which can be wrong at the moment the lock is dropped. So why bother? Thanks, tglx