From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Asahi Lina" <lina@asahilina.net>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 3/5] rust: Add missing SAFETY documentation for ARef example
Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 13:33:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cycrz1pa.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o6wbz46a.fsf@kernel.org> (Andreas Hindborg's message of "Fri, 02 May 2025 12:40:29 +0200")
Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
> Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me> writes:
>
>> On 250409 1126, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>>> "Oliver Mangold" <oliver.mangold@pm.me> writes:
>>>
>>> > SAFETY comment in rustdoc example was just 'TODO'. Fixed.
>>> >
>>> > Signed-off-by: Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me>
>>> > ---
>>> > rust/kernel/types.rs | 4 ++--
>>> > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>> >
>>> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/types.rs b/rust/kernel/types.rs
>>> > index c8b78bcad259132808cc38c56b9f2bd525a0b755..db29f7c725e631c11099fa9122901ec2b3f4a039 100644
>>> > --- a/rust/kernel/types.rs
>>> > +++ b/rust/kernel/types.rs
>>> > @@ -492,7 +492,7 @@ pub unsafe fn from_raw(ptr: NonNull<T>) -> Self {
>>> > ///
>>> > /// struct Empty {}
>>> > ///
>>> > - /// # // SAFETY: TODO.
>>> > + /// // SAFETY: We do not free anything.
>>>
>>> How about:
>>>
>>> This implementation will never free the underlying object, so the
>>> object is kept alive longer than the safety requirement specifies.
>>
>> Yes, was rather sloppy wording. Thanks, I will use your version.
>>
>>> > /// unsafe impl RefCounted for Empty {
>>> > /// fn inc_ref(&self) {}
>>> > /// unsafe fn dec_ref(_obj: NonNull<Self>) {}
>>> > @@ -500,7 +500,7 @@ pub unsafe fn from_raw(ptr: NonNull<T>) -> Self {
>>> > ///
>>> > /// let mut data = Empty {};
>>> > /// let ptr = NonNull::<Empty>::new(&mut data).unwrap();
>>> > - /// # // SAFETY: TODO.
>>> > + /// // SAFETY: We keep `data` around longer than the `ARef`.
>>>
>>> This is not sufficient. The safety requirement is:
>>>
>>> Callers must ensure that the reference count was incremented at least once, and that they
>>> are properly relinquishing one increment. That is, if there is only one increment, callers
>>> must not use the underlying object anymore -- it is only safe to do so via the newly
>>> created [`ARef`].
>>>
>>> How about:
>>>
>>> The `RefCounted` implementation for `Empty` does not count references
>>> and never frees the underlying object. Thus we can act as having a
>>> refcount on the object that we pass to the newly created `ARef`.
>>>
>>> I think this example actually exposes a soundness hole. When the
>>> underlying object is allocated on the stack, the safety requirements are
>>> not sufficient to ensure the lifetime of the object. We could safely
>>> return `data_ref` and have the underlying object go away. We should add
>>> to the safety requirement of `ARef::from_raw`:
>>>
>>> `ptr` must be valid while the refcount is positive.
>>
>> Wouldn't this already be covered by the below in the doc for
>> AlwaysRefCounted?
>>
>> Implementers must ensure that increments to the reference count keep
>> the object alive in memory at least until matching decrements are
>> performed."
>
> No, I don't think that is enough. We can implement the trait properly
> with refcounts and still we can allocate an object on the stack and then
> do a `from_raw` on that object without violating any safety
> requirements. I think the `ARef::from_raw` should have the safety
> requirement above. But we can do that as a separate patch.
On second thought, I think you are right. I was trying to implement a
counter example, and I think it is not possible to implement
`RefCounted` while following the safety requirements in a way that would
trigger this issue. Implementers will have to make sure that the the
type that implement `RefCounted` cannot be directly constructed. In
other words the implementation for `Empty` is illegal in this regard.
We can do this instead for the example
mod empty {
use crate::alloc::KBox;
use core::ptr::NonNull;
pub struct Empty {
// Prevent direct construction
_p: (),
}
// SAFETY: The `RefCounted` implementation for `Empty` does not count references
// and never frees the underlying object. Thus we can act as having a
// refcount on the object that we pass to the newly created `ARef`.
unsafe impl super::RefCounted for Empty {
fn inc_ref(&self) {}
unsafe fn dec_ref(_obj: NonNull<Self>) {}
}
impl Empty {
pub fn new() -> NonNull<Self> {
NonNull::new(KBox::into_raw(
KBox::new(Self { _p: () }, kernel::alloc::flags::GFP_KERNEL).unwrap(),
))
.unwrap()
}
}
}
let ptr = empty::Empty::new();
// SAFETY: The `RefCounted` implementation for `Empty` does not count
// references and never frees the underlying object. Thus we can act as
// having a refcount on the object that we pass to the newly created `ARef`.
let data_ref: ARef<empty::Empty> = unsafe { ARef::from_raw(ptr) };
let _raw_ptr: NonNull<empty::Empty> = ARef::into_raw(data_ref);
Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-02 11:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-25 11:56 [PATCH v9 0/5] New trait OwnableRefCounted for ARef<->Owned conversion Oliver Mangold
2025-03-25 11:56 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] rust: types: Add Ownable/Owned types Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09 8:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 6:01 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] rust: Rename AlwaysRefCounted to RefCounted Oliver Mangold
2025-03-26 17:29 ` kernel test robot
2025-04-09 8:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] rust: Add missing SAFETY documentation for ARef example Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09 9:26 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 6:07 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-05-02 10:40 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-05-02 11:33 ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] rust: kbuild: provide `RUSTC_HAS_DO_NOT_RECOMMEND` symbol Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09 9:27 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] rust: Add OwnableRefCounted and SimpleOwnableRefCounted Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09 10:17 ` Andreas Hindborg
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