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From: Shea Levy <shea@shealevy.com>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
Cc: zong@andestech.com, albert@sifive.com,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	zong@andestech.com, zongbox@gmail.com, greentime@andestech.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] RISC-V: Resolve the issue of loadable module on 64-bit
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:11:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d106zine.fsf@xps13.shealevy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-fd5e759c-7716-41b2-9fa3-439d6b4b498f@palmer-si-x1c4>

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Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com> writes:

> On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 05:07:09 PDT (-0700), shea@shealevy.com wrote:
>> Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:30:53 PDT (-0700), shea@shealevy.com wrote:
>>>> Hi Palmer,
>>>>
>>>> Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 01:35:05 PDT (-0700), zong@andestech.com wrote:
>>>>>> These patches resolve the some issues of loadable module.
>>>>>>   - symbol out of ranges
>>>>>>   - unknown relocation types
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reference of external variable and function symbols
>>>>>> cannot exceed 32-bit offset ranges in kernel module.
>>>>>> The module only can work on the 32-bit OS or the 64-bit
>>>>>> OS with sv32 virtual addressing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These patches will generate the .got, .got.plt and
>>>>>> .plt sections during loading module, let it can refer
>>>>>> to the symbol which locate more than 32-bit offset.
>>>>>> These sections depend on the relocation types:
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_GOT_HI20
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_CALL_PLT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These patches also support more relocation types
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_CALL
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_HI20
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_LO12_I
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_LO12_S
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_RVC_BRANCH
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_RVC_JUMP
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_ALIGN
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_ADD32
>>>>>>  - R_RISCV_SUB32
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zong Li (11):
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Add sections of PLT and GOT for kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Add section of GOT.PLT for kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Support GOT_HI20/CALL_PLT relocation type in kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Support CALL relocation type in kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Support HI20/LO12_I/LO12_S relocation type in kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Support RVC_BRANCH/JUMP relocation type in kernel modulewq
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Support ALIGN relocation type in kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Support ADD32 relocation type in kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Support SUB32 relocation type in kernel module
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Enable module support in defconfig
>>>>>>   RISC-V: Add definition of relocation types
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/Kconfig                  |   5 ++
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/Makefile                 |   3 +
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/configs/defconfig        |   2 +
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/include/asm/module.h     | 112 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/include/uapi/asm/elf.h   |  24 +++++
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/kernel/Makefile          |   1 +
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/kernel/module-sections.c | 156 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/kernel/module.c          | 175 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>>>>  arch/riscv/kernel/module.lds        |   8 ++
>>>>>>  9 files changed, 480 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>>>  create mode 100644 arch/riscv/include/asm/module.h
>>>>>>  create mode 100644 arch/riscv/kernel/module-sections.c
>>>>>>  create mode 100644 arch/riscv/kernel/module.lds
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the second set of patches that turn on modules, and it has the same
>>>>> R_RISCV_ALIGN problem as the other one
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-riscv/2018-February/000081.html
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like this one uses shared libraries for modules instead of static
>>>>> objects.  I think using shared objects is the right thing to do, as it'll allow
>>>>> us to place modules anywhere in the address space by having multiple GOTs and
>>>>> PLTs.
>>>>
>>>> Can you expand on this? It was my understanding that outside of the
>>>> context of multiple address spaces sharing code the GOT and PLT were
>>>> simply unnecessary overhead, what benefit would they bring here?
>>>
>>> We don't currently have any position-dependent RISC-V code models larger than
>>> "medany", in which all code and data must live within a single 32-bit
>>> addressable range.  The PLT and GOT sort of provide an out here, so the code
>>> only needs to get to the table (which can then get anywhere via an indirection
>>> layer).
>>>
>>> This is relevant for Linux modules because it lets us load modules anywhere in
>>> the address space.  It's also a bit of a headache, as it either requires a
>>> GOT+PLT per module (which is big) or merging tables (which is hard).
>>
>> I see, thanks! We only get this benefit if we actually do the relevanat
>> indirection in the table, right? And if we merge tables we still have to
>> have all modules within 32 bits of the common table? Is this how some
>> future "medlarge" code model will work, or is it more of a convenient
>> way to reuse existing techniques until other code models are worked out?
>
> The idea is that you'd merge the tables only when it's possible to do that
> correctly, which is the tricky part.
>
> It'd be called "largeany", the "med" part is what limits the code model to 32
> bit offsets.  We might just call it "large", as the "any" is kind of redundant.

Ah, right, that makes more sense :D. So would "mcmodel=large" also use
PLTs/GOTs for long jumps?

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-14 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-13  8:35 Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 01/11] RISC-V: Add sections of PLT and GOT for kernel module Zong Li
2018-03-14 17:20   ` kbuild test robot
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 02/11] RISC-V: Add section of GOT.PLT " Zong Li
2018-03-14 17:34   ` kbuild test robot
2018-03-15  9:35     ` Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 03/11] RISC-V: Support GOT_HI20/CALL_PLT relocation type in " Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 04/11] RISC-V: Support CALL " Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 05/11] RISC-V: Support HI20/LO12_I/LO12_S " Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 06/11] RISC-V: Support RVC_BRANCH/JUMP relocation type in kernel modulewq Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 07/11] RISC-V: Support ALIGN relocation type in kernel module Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 08/11] RISC-V: Support ADD32 " Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 09/11] RISC-V: Support SUB32 " Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 10/11] RISC-V: Enable module support in defconfig Zong Li
2018-03-13  8:35 ` [PATCH 11/11] RISC-V: Add definition of relocation types Zong Li
2018-03-13 10:35 ` [PATCH 00/11] RISC-V: Resolve the issue of loadable module on 64-bit Zong Li
2018-03-13 18:35 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-03-13 21:30   ` Shea Levy
2018-03-14  1:34     ` Zong Li
2018-03-14  3:07       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-03-14 11:15         ` Zong Li
2018-03-14 11:56           ` Shea Levy
2018-03-14 12:20             ` Zong Li
2018-03-14 11:54         ` Shea Levy
2018-03-14 17:07           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-03-14  3:51     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-03-14 12:07       ` Shea Levy
2018-03-14 17:07         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-03-14 17:11           ` Shea Levy [this message]
2018-03-14 17:30             ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-03-13 21:26 ` Shea Levy

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