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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"akpm\@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>, "mingo\@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM mailing list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: CPU Hotplug rework
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:55:04 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d3859s9r.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1332320519.18960.466.camel@twins>

On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:01:59 +0100, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 09:30 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > > (2) Do something more efficient with userspace threads than migrating
> > > >     them one at a time.
> > > 
> > > Sadly that can't really be done. We need to pick up every task
> > > (userspace, but also running kernel threads) and update their state.
> > 
> > What if we had an "orphan" runqueue which everyone pulled from?  Then we
> > could grab the lock, move them all to the fake rq, then let stuff happen
> > normally.
> 
> Well, we could simply let them sit where they are and fudge load-balance
> to consider it a source but not a destination until its empty, but it
> might be somewhat tricky to make it fast enough to not introduce
> noticable latencies. Also, you really don't want everyone to pull,
> that's a serialization/scalability problem.
> 
> Also, since we really only move the currently runnable tasks it
> shouldn't be too many in the first place. Is it really that expensive?

Good question, requires measurement to answer.

> > Maybe that's crap, but at least we could move the migration out of the
> > hotplug callback somehow. 
> 
> Thing is, if its really too much for some people, they can orchestrate
> it such that its not. Just move everybody in a cpuset, clear the to be
> offlined cpu from the cpuset's mask -- this will migrate everybody away.
> Then hotplug will find an empty runqueue and its fast, no?

I like this solution better.

Thanks,
Rusty.
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-22 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-19 14:44 Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-19 14:48 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-20 11:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-05 17:39   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-05 17:55     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-05 23:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-06 20:15         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-09 16:46           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-10  7:56             ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-04-06 19:52     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-09 17:13       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-10 13:41         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-10 15:46           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-10 17:26             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-11  0:09       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-11  0:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-11  0:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-11  1:00             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-11  6:02               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-11 12:28                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-19 23:42 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-20 10:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-20 23:00     ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-21  9:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-22  4:25         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2012-03-22 22:49           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-23 23:27             ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-24  0:23               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-26  0:41                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-26  8:02                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 13:09                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-26 13:38                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 15:22                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-26 16:13                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 17:05                             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-26 17:59                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27  1:32                               ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-27  3:05                                 ` Steven Rostedt

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