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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com
Cc: Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Kenton Varda <kenton@sandstorm.io>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] user_namespaces.7: Update the documention to reflect the fixes for negative groups
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:01:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egpwk0n3.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgNAkhmwK02DJQV84S+dEdrUDjzRuR32j+2gcKkgeDq8jTkuQ@mail.gmail.com> (Michael Kerrisk's message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 09:02:30 +0100")

"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Ping!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
>
> On 2 February 2015 at 16:37, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Thanks for writing this up!
>>
>> On 12/12/2014 10:54 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>
>>> Files with access permissions such as ---rwx---rwx give fewer
>>> permissions to their group then they do to everyone else.  Which means
>>> dropping groups with setgroups(0, NULL) actually grants a process
>>> privileges.
>>>
>>> The uprivileged setting of gid_map turned out not to be safe after
        ^^^^^^^^^^^
unprivileged  -- typo fix

>>> this change.  Privilege setting of gid_map can be interpreted as
>>> meaning yes it is ok to drop groups.
>>
>> I had trouble to parse that sentence (and I'd like to make sure that
>> the right sentence ends up in the commit message). Did you mean:
>>
>>     "*Unprivileged* setting of gid_map can be interpreted as meaning
>>      yes it is ok to drop groups"
>> ?
>>
>> Or something else?


I meant:  Setting of gid_map with privilege has been clarified to mean
that dropping groups is ok.  This allows existing programs that set
gid_map with privilege to work without changes.  That is newgidmap
continues to work unchanged.

>>> To prevent this problem and future problems user namespaces were
>>> changed in such a way as to guarantee a user can not obtain
>>> credentials without privilege they could not obtain without the
>>> help of user namespaces.
>>>
>>> This meant testing the effective user ID and not the filesystem user
>>> ID as setresuid and setregid allow setting any process uid or gid
>>> (except the supplemental groups) to the effective ID.
>>>
>>> Furthermore to preserve in some form the useful applications that have
>>> been setting gid_map without privilege the file /proc/[pid]/setgroups
>>> was added to allow disabling setgroups.  With the setgroups system
>>> call permanently disabled in a user namespace it again becomes safe to
>>> allow writes to gid_map without privilege.
>>>
>>> Here is my meager attempt to update user_namespaces.7 to reflect these
>>> issues.
>>
>> It looked pretty serviceable as patch, IMO. So, thanks again. I've applied,
>> tweaking some wordings afterward, but changing nothing essential. See below
>> for a question.
>>
>>> Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>>> ---
>>>  man7/user_namespaces.7 | 52 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>>  1 file changed, 49 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/man7/user_namespaces.7 b/man7/user_namespaces.7
>>> index d76721d9a0a1..f8333a762308 100644
>>> --- a/man7/user_namespaces.7
>>> +++ b/man7/user_namespaces.7
>>> @@ -533,11 +533,16 @@ One of the following is true:
>>>  The data written to
>>>  .I uid_map
>>>  .RI ( gid_map )
>>> -consists of a single line that maps the writing process's filesystem user ID
>>> +consists of a single line that maps the writing process's effective user ID
>>>  (group ID) in the parent user namespace to a user ID (group ID)
>>>  in the user namespace.
>>> -The usual case here is that this single line provides a mapping for user ID
>>> -of the process that created the namespace.
>>> +The writing process must have the same effective user ID as the process
>>> +that created the user namespace.
>>> +In the case of
>>> +.I gid_map
>>> +the
>>> +.I setgroups
>>> +file must have been written to earlier and disabled the setgroups system call.
>>>  .IP * 3
>>>  The opening process has the
>>>  .BR CAP_SETUID
>>> @@ -552,6 +557,47 @@ Writes that violate the above rules fail with the error
>>>  .\"
>>>  .\" ============================================================
>>>  .\"
>>> +.SS Interaction with system calls that change the uid or gid values
>>> +When in a user namespace where the
>>> +.I uid_map
>>> +or
>>> +.I gid_map
>>> +file has not been written the system calls that change user IDs
>>> +or group IDs respectively will fail.  After the
>>> +.I uid_map
>>> +and
>>> +.I gid_map
>>> +file have been written only the mapped values may be used in
>>> +system calls that change user IDs and group IDs.
>>> +
>>> +For user IDs these system calls include
>>> +.BR setuid ,
>>> +.BR setfsuid ,
>>> +.BR setreuid ,
>>> +and
>>> +.BR setresuid .
>>> +
>>> +For group IDs these system calls include
>>> +.BR setgid ,
>>> +.BR setfsgid ,
>>> +.BR setregid ,
>>> +.BR setresgid ,
>>> +and
>>> +.BR setgroups.
>>> +
>>> +Writing
>>> +.BR deny
>>> +to the
>>> +.I /proc/[pid]/setgroups
>>> +file before writing to
>>> +.I /proc/[pid]/gid_map
>>> +will permanently disable the setgroups system call in a user namespace
>>> +and allow writing to
>>> +.I /proc/[pid]/gid_map
>>> +without
>>> +.BR CAP_SETGID
>>> +in the parent user namespace.
>>
>> I just want to double check: you really did mean to write "*parent* namespace"
>> above, right?

Yes.  At this point only privilege in the *parent* user namespace is
meaningful, as applications in the new user namespace have all
privileges.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-11 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-29 17:26 [PATCH v2] userns: Disallow setgroups unless the gid_map writer is privileged Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 12:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 18:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 19:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 20:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 20:25         ` [CFT][PATCH 1/3] userns: Avoid problems with negative groups Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 20:28           ` [CFT][PATCH 2/3] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 20:30             ` [CFT][PATCH 3/3] userns: Unbreak the unprivileged remount tests Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 21:05             ` [CFT][PATCH 2/3] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 21:45               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 22:17                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 23:07                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 23:17                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:06                       ` [CFT][PATCH 1/7] userns: Document what the invariant required for safe unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:07                         ` [CFT][PATCH 2/7] userns: Don't allow setgroups until a gid mapping has been setablished Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:11                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                             ` <87h9x5ok0h.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-08 22:33                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:17                           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-08 22:25                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:27                               ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]                                 ` <874mt5ojfh.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-08 22:47                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:07                         ` [CFT][PATCH 3/7] userns: Don't allow unprivileged creation of gid mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:08                         ` [CFT][PATCH 4/7] userns: Check euid no fsuid when establishing an unprivileged uid mapping Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:12                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:10                         ` [CFT][PATCH 5/7] userns: Only allow the creator of the userns unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:15                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:11                         ` [CFT][PATCH 6/7] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:21                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 22:44                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:48                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-08 23:30                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 19:31                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:36                                     ` [CFT][PATCH 1/8] userns: Document what the invariant required for safe unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:38                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 2/8] userns: Don't allow setgroups until a gid mapping has been setablished Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 22:49                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:39                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 3/8] userns: Don't allow unprivileged creation of gid mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 23:00                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:39                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 4/8] userns: Check euid no fsuid when establishing an unprivileged uid mapping Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:41                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 5/8] userns: Only allow the creator of the userns unprivileged mappings Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 20:41                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 6/8] userns: Rename id_map_mutex to userns_state_mutex Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 22:49                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-09 20:42                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 7/8] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per user namespace basis Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-09 22:28                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                           ` <971ad3f6-90fd-4e3f-916c-8988af3c826d@email.android.com>
2014-12-10  0:21                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                               ` <87wq5zf83t.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <87iohh3c9c.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-12  1:30                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                   ` <8761dh3b7k.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                                     ` <878uicy1r9.fsf_-_@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-12 21:54                                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] proc.5: Document /proc/[pid]/setgroups Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-02 15:36                                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11  8:01                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11 13:51                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-12 13:53                                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-21  7:57                                                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-03-03 11:39                                                                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-12-12 21:54                                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] user_namespaces.7: Update the documention to reflect the fixes for negative groups Eric W. Biederman
2015-02-02 15:37                                                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11  8:02                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-11 14:01                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2015-02-12 10:11                                                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-02 21:31                                                         ` Alban Crequy
2015-03-04 14:00                                                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-12-09 20:43                                       ` [CFT][PATCH 8/8] userns: Allow setting gid_maps without privilege when setgroups is disabled Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-10 16:39                                       ` [CFT] Can I get some Tested-By's on this series? Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-10 22:48                                         ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-10 22:50                                           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-10 23:19                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-11 19:27                                               ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-12  6:56                                               ` Chen, Hanxiao
2014-12-13 22:31                                           ` serge
     [not found]                                           ` <87lhmcy2et.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <20141212220840.GF22091@castiana.ipv6.teksavvy.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <8761dgze56.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
2014-12-15 19:38                                                 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-15 20:11                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-15 20:49                                                     ` Serge Hallyn
2014-12-16  2:05                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-16  9:23                                           ` Richard Weinberger
2014-12-08 22:14                         ` [CFT][PATCH 7/7] userns: Allow setting gid_maps without privilege when setgroups is disabled Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-08 22:26                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 20:58           ` [CFT][PATCH 1/3] userns: Avoid problems with negative groups Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 21:26             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 22:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 22:48                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-12-02 22:56                   ` Andy Lutomirski

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