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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Rafael David Tinoco <rafael.tinoco@canonical.com>
Cc: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dave Chiluk <chiluk@canonical.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	Christopher Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
	Jay Vosburgh <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: Possible netns creation and execution performance/scalability regression since v3.8 due to rcu callbacks being offloaded to multiple cpus
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 00:01:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egxbkzpt.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73833A09-DF3C-49CE-8F78-91A822651F75@canonical.com> (Rafael David Tinoco's message of "Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:05:01 -0300")

Rafael David Tinoco <rafael.tinoco@canonical.com> writes:

> Hello Eric,
>
> Coming back to this...
>
> On Jun 16, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Rafael Tinoco <rafael.tinoco@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Eric W. Biederman
>> <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>> Rafael Tinoco <rafael.tinoco@canonical.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> Okay,
>>>> 
>>>> Tests with the same script were done.
>>>> I'm comparing : master + patch vs 3.15.0-rc5 (last sync'ed rcu commit)
>>>> and 3.9 last bisect good.
>>>> 
>>>> Same tests were made. I'm comparing the following versions:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) master + suggested patch
>>>> 2) 3.15.0-rc5 (last rcu commit in my clone)
>>>> 3) 3.9-rc2 (last bisect good)
>>> 
>>> I am having a hard time making sense of your numbers.
>>> 
>>> If I have read your email correctly my suggested patch caused:
>>> "ip netns add" numbers to improve
>>> 1x "ip netns exec" to improve some
>>> 2x "ip netns exec" to show no improvement
>>> "ip link add" to show no effect (after the 2x ip netns exec)
>> 
>> - "netns add" are as good as they were before this regression.
>> - "netns exec" are improved but still 50% of the last good bisect commit.
>> - "link add" didn't show difference.
>> 
>>> This is interesting in a lot of ways.
>>> - This seems to confirm that the only rcu usage in ip netns add
>>>  was switch_task_namespaces.  Which is convinient as that rules
>>>  out most of the network stack when looking for performance oddities.
>>> 
>>> - "ip netns exec" had an expected performance improvement
>>> - "ip netns exec" is still slow (so something odd is still going on)
>>> - "ip link add" appears immaterial to the performance problem.
>>> 
>>> It would be interesting to switch the "ip link add" and "ip netns exec"
>>> in your test case to confirm that there is nothing interesting/slow
>>> going on in "ip link add"
>> 
>> - will do that.
>
> IP link add seems ok.
>
>> 
>>> 
>>> Which leaves me with the question what ip "ip netns exec" remains
>>> that is using rcu and is slowing all of this down.
>> 
>> - will check this also.
>
> Based on my tests (and some other users that deployed this patch on a server farm)
> it looks like changing rcu_read_lock() to task_lock() did the trick. We are getting
> same (sometimes much better) results - comparing bisect good - for a big amount 
> of netns being created simultaneously. 
>
> Is it possible to make this change permanent in kernel tree ? 

Definitely.  I just need to finish getting my act together.

It sounded like you had seen other performance problems and I was
waiting on your futher testing so we could narrow down.

If you can't see other problems then I am happy to move forward with
this.

Thank you for testing and reporting this,

Eric

      reply	other threads:[~2014-07-24  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-11  5:52 Rafael Tinoco
2014-06-11  7:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-06-11 13:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-11 15:17   ` Rafael Tinoco
2014-06-11 15:46     ` David Chiluk
2014-06-11 16:18       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-11 18:27         ` Dave Chiluk
2014-06-11 19:48           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-11 20:55             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-06-11 21:03               ` Rafael Tinoco
2014-06-11 20:46           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-06-11 21:14             ` Dave Chiluk
2014-06-11 22:52             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-11 23:12               ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-06-11 23:49                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-12  0:14                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-06-12  0:25                     ` Rafael Tinoco
2014-06-12  1:09                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-06-12  1:14                         ` Rafael Tinoco
     [not found]                           ` <CAJE_dJzjcWP=e_CPM1M64URVHiEFFb+fP6g2YKZVdoFntkQMZg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-13 18:22                             ` Rafael Tinoco
2014-06-14  0:02                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-06-16 15:01                               ` Rafael Tinoco
2014-07-17 12:05                                 ` Rafael David Tinoco
2014-07-24  7:01                                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]

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