From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2992790AbXDRV3W (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:29:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S2992793AbXDRV3W (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:29:22 -0400 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.188]:39250 "EHLO mu-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2992790AbXDRV3V (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:29:21 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TmKaxmHiS1+4CiRUkYrvqrq+ZuaJXp+35X/l6NGywrFdlbQ1vrXMGcIK/uzDDlvSvLNgEF0G1FSpMi7hFXL+o2LbuJLm9hhOHgIALx728jlqfqA98OGE/yGvaNu4SqK8Dp8oF9PUv+Crwq5RfthmOYE/5HXea1Dy95lwwAT9hhU= Message-ID: <87f94c370704181429y24a727ffl44aa8f318b4619a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:29:18 -0400 From: "Greg Freemyer" To: "Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz" Subject: Re: Loud "pop" coming from hard drive on reboot Cc: "Chuck Ebbert" , "Mark Lord" , Stephen.Clark@seclark.us, "Tejun Heo" , "Alan Cox" , 7eggert@gmx.de, emisca , "Jan Engelhardt" , linux-kernel , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, "Adrian Bunk" , "Andrew Morton" In-Reply-To: <200704182322.20514.bzolnier@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <88SeR-5Sf-15@gated-at.bofh.it> <46265307.7060405@rtr.ca> <46265966.1040102@redhat.com> <200704182322.20514.bzolnier@gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 4/18/07, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > > Mark Lord wrote: > > > Mark Lord wrote: > > >> > > >> With the patch applied, I don't see *any* new activity in those > > >> S.M.A.R.T. > > >> attributes over multiple hibernates (Linux "suspend-to-disk"). > > > > > > Scratch that -- operator failure. ;) > > > The patch makes no difference over hibernates in the SMART logs. > > > > > > It's still logging extra Power-Off_Retract_Count pegs, > > > which it DID NOT USED TO DO not so long ago. > > > > > > > Just to add to the fun, my problems are happening with the "old" > > IDE drivers... > > The issue you are experiencing results in the same problem (disk doing > power off retract) but it has a totally different root cause - your notebook > loses power on reboot. It is actually a hardware problem and as you have > reported the same problem is present when using "the other" OS. > > I think that the issue needs to be fixed (by detecting affected notebook(s) > using DMI?) in Linux PM handling and not in IDE subsystem because: > > * there may be some other hardware devices affected by the power loss > (== they require shutdown sequence) > > * the same problem will bite if somebody decides to use libata (FC7?) > > Bart OpenSUSE 10.3 is still in Alpha stage (at least a few months away from release), but they too have switched to libata by default. (You can override by adding a boot param). Greg -- Greg Freemyer The Norcross Group Forensics for the 21st Century