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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: dwalker@fifo99.com
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org, david.daney@cavium.com,
	d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com, vgoyal@redhat.com,
	hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kexec crash kernel running with watchdog enabled
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:06:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fv5hc9z8.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150624163141.GA20456@fifo99.com> (dwalker@fifo99.com's message of "Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:31:41 +0000")

dwalker@fifo99.com writes:

> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 03:52:48PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On 2015/06/23 23:05, dwalker@fifo99.com wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > There was a commit in kernel/panic.c which altered when the kexec crash kernel is executed,
>> > 
>> > commit f06e5153f4ae2e2f3b0300f0e260e40cb7fefd45
>> > Author: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
>> > Date:   Fri Jun 6 14:37:07 2014 -0700
>> > 
>> >     kernel/panic.c: add "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" option for kdump after panic_notifers
>> > 
>> > 
>> > This made it possible for smp_send_stop() to be executed prior to calling the kexec crash
>> > kernel.
>> > 
>> > The issue is that smp_send_stop() offlines the cores, and other code depend on the cores being online.
>> > 
>> > In my case on Octeon here's an example,
>> > 
>> > panic()
>> >  crash_kexec()
>> >   machine_crash_shutdown()
>> >    octeon_generic_shutdown()
>> > 
>> > Inside octeon_generic_shutdown() the Octeon watchdog is shutdown for_each_online_cpu(), but since
>> > most of the cpu's already got offlined in smp_send_stop() it means the watchdog is still alive on
>> > those cores. This results in a reboot during the crash kernel execution.
>> 
>> Ah, I see.
>> 
>> > Another example seem to be in default_machine_crash_shutdown() where crash_kexec_prepare_cpus() depends
>> > on an IPI for saving the registers on different cores. However, the cpu's are all offlined with
>> > interrupts disabled so they won't be running those IPI's in this case.
>> > 
>> > I'm looking for any advice on how this should be fixed, or if it's already fixed. I'm not going to be
>> > submitting a patch so if anyone wants to submit one feel free to do so.
>> 
>> Hmm, IMHO, when the cpu goes to offline in appropriate way(smp_send_stop), it should stop
>> watchdog timer on the offlined cpu too.
>> Or, you can also register crash handler which stops all watchdogs, but it's a bit tricky.
>> 
>
> That doesn't really fix all the issue tho. As I was explaining generic MIPS code depends on the cpu's
> effectively being online for crash data collection (with an IPI). This issue may effect other architectures also,
> because smp_send_stop() offlines the cpu on other architectures also. I haven't surveyed the other architectures
> enough to know what issue could happen from this tho.
>
> Is it possible to move the smp_send_stop() below the notifiers ? I'm
> just throwing out ideas.

In general if you want reliability don't pass the kernel command line to
run the panic notifiers.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-24 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150623140548.GA15591@fifo99.com>
2015-06-24  6:52 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-06-24 16:31   ` dwalker
2015-06-24 17:06     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2015-06-25 20:16       ` dwalker
2015-06-26  1:02     ` Hidehiro Kawai
2015-06-26 18:33       ` dwalker
2015-06-29  9:53         ` Hidehiro Kawai
2015-06-29 12:26           ` Vivek Goyal
2015-06-30  8:36             ` Hidehiro Kawai

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