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From: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vince@deater.net,
	eranian@google.com, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] perf: Synchronously cleanup child events
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 09:04:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87io2owx37.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160119200558.GC6357@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> So I think there's a number of problems still :-(
>
> I all starts with having two perf_remove_from_owner() calls (as I
> mentioned on IRC), this doesn't make sense.
>
> I think the moment you close the file and userspace looses control over
> it, we should drop the owner bit, which is exactly the one
> remove_from_owner in perf_release().

Fair enough.

> If, for some magical reason, the event lives on after that (and we'll
> get to that), it should live on owner-less.
>
> Now, assume someone has such a magical reference, then our
> put_event_last() goto again loop will never terminate, this seems like a
> bad thing.
>
> The most obvious place that generates such magical references would be
> the bpf arraymap doing perf_event_get() on things. There are a few other
> places that take temp references (perf_mmap_close), but those are
> 'short' lived and while ugly will not cause massive grief.

We won't get to perf_release() before we're done with perf_mmap_close(),
so that one's not really a problem.

> The BPF one OTOH is a real problem here.
>
> And looking at the BPF stuff, that code seems to assume
> perf_event_kernel_release() := put_event(), so this patch breaks that
> too.

Yes, that one's very much an api abuse, it should clearly be using
get_file()/fput() instead. Now that the code is there already, there's a
slight chance that changing this will have userspace running into the fd
limit and cause a regression. As a workaround we can probably introduce
yet another magial owner to allow a userspace event to be
'stolen'. Since bpf is the only user of perf_event_get(), this can be
somewhat easily arranged.

Regards,
--
Alex

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-20  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15 11:22 [PATCH] perf: Cleanup user's " Alexander Shishkin
2016-01-15 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15 13:05   ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-01-15 13:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15 14:07       ` [PATCH] perf: Synchronously cleanup " Alexander Shishkin
2016-01-15 17:57         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-18 12:07           ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-01-18 12:37           ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-01-18 14:44             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-19 15:12               ` [PATCH v2] " Alexander Shishkin
2016-01-19 20:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-19 21:58                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-20  8:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-21  4:55                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-20  7:04                   ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2016-01-20  8:03                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 11:35                   ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-01-22 12:12                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 12:38                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-22 19:44                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-25 11:48                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-25 14:54                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-25 21:04                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26  4:59                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-26 16:16                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26 17:24                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-26 23:31                                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-27  9:58                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 17:52                                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-29 11:28                                 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf/bpf: Convert perf_event_array to use struct file tip-bot for Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-29 20:01                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-19 20:07                 ` [PATCH v2] perf: Synchronously cleanup child events Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-19  7:45         ` [PATCH] " Ingo Molnar

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