From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: paulmck@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt.kanzenbach@linutronix.de>,
Alison Wang <alison.wang@nxp.com>,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, mw@semihalf.com,
leoyang.li@nxp.com, vladimir.oltean@nxp.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Anna-Maria Gleixner <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] arm64: defconfig: Disable fine-grained task level IRQ time accounting
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 21:03:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0ybha0z.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200806132710.GL4295@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>
Paul,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org> writes:
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 01:45:45PM +0200, peterz@infradead.org wrote:
>> The safety thing is concerned with RT tasks. It doesn't pretend to help
>> with runnaway IRQs, never has, never will.
>
> Getting into the time machine back to the 1990s...
>
> DYNIX/ptx had a discretionary mechanism to deal with excessive interrupts.
> There was a function that long-running interrupt handlers were supposed
> to call periodically that would return false if the system felt that
> the CPU had done enough interrupts for the time being. In that case,
> the interrupt handler was supposed to schedule itself for a later time,
> but leave the interrupt unacknowledged in order to prevent retriggering
> in the meantime.
>
> Of course, this mechanism would be rather less helpful in Linux.
>
> For one, Linux has way more device drivers and way more oddball devices.
> In contrast, the few devices that DYNIX/ptx supported were carefully
> selected, and the selection criteria included being able to put up
> with this sort of thing. Also, the fact that there was but a handful
> of device drivers meant that changes like this could be more easily
> propagated through all drivers.
We could do that completely at the core interrupt handling level.
> Also, Linux supports way more workloads. In contrast, DYNIX/ptx could
> pick a small percentage of each CPU that would be permitted to be used
> by hardware interrupt handlers. As in there are probably Linux workloads
> that run >90% of some poor CPU within hardware interrupt handlers.
Yet another tunable. /me runs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-06 19:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-29 3:39 Alison Wang
2020-07-29 8:40 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-07-29 8:50 ` [EXT] " Alison Wang
2020-07-29 9:49 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-07-30 7:23 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-07-30 8:22 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-08-03 8:04 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-08-03 8:16 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-08-03 9:51 ` Robin Murphy
2020-08-03 11:38 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-08-03 11:48 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-08-03 13:24 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-03 10:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-03 10:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-03 11:41 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-08-03 15:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-03 15:47 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-08-03 16:14 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-08-03 19:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-03 23:59 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-08-05 8:50 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-08-05 13:40 ` peterz
2020-08-05 13:56 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-08-05 15:31 ` peterz
2020-08-06 9:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-06 11:45 ` peterz
2020-08-06 13:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-06 19:03 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-08-06 20:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-06 18:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-06 9:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
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