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From: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jolsa@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/6] perf: Allow using AUX data in perf samples
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2018 17:00:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1n078ka.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180621201632.GE27616@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 01:47:25PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:20:22PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
>> > More yuck...
>> > 
>> > You rreally should not be calling these pmu::methods, they're meant to
>> > be used from _interrupt_ not NMI context. Using them like this is asking
>> > for tons of trouble.
>> 
>> Right, the SW stuff may then race with event_function_call() stuff. Hmm.
>> For the HW stuff, I'm hoping that some kind of a sleight of hand may
>> suffice. Let me think some more.
>
> I currently don't see how the SW driven snapshot can ever work, see my
> comment on the last patch.

Unless we explicitly break clone when PERF_SAMPLE_AUX is set. Basically,
if you're asking for AUX samples, full perf context switch is not your
biggest performance penalty.

>> > Why can't you just snapshot the current location and let the thing
>> > 'run' ?
>> 
>> Because the buffer will overwrite itself and the location will be useless.
>
> Not if it's large enough ;-)
>
>> We don't write the AUX data out in this 'mode' at all, only the samples,
>> which allows for much less data in the resulting perf.data, less work for
>> the consumer, less IO bandwidth etc, and as a bonus, no AUX-related
>> interrupts.
>> 
>> But actually, even to snapshot the location we need to stop the event.
>
> Maybe new methods that should only be called from NMI context? 

True. Ideally, the existing ->start()/->stop()/interrupt should already
do all necessary internal bookkeeping.

Regards,
--
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-02 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-12  7:51 [PATCH v1 0/6] perf: Add AUX data sampling Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-12  7:51 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] perf: Disable PMU around address filter adjustment Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-12 20:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-12  7:51 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] perf: Disable IRQs in address filter sync path Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-12  7:51 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] perf: Add an iterator for AUX data Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-12  7:51 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] perf: Allow using AUX data in perf samples Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-14 19:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-14 19:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 10:51       ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-14 19:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-14 19:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 11:00     ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-14 20:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-14 20:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 10:47     ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-21 20:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 14:00         ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2019-08-09 12:32         ` Alexander Shishkin
2019-09-26 12:04           ` Alexander Shishkin
2019-09-26 14:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-30 11:50             ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-12  7:51 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] perf: Drop PERF_FLAG_FD_OUTPUT Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-12  7:51 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] perf: Allow set-output for task contexts of different types Alexander Shishkin
2018-06-14 19:36   ` Peter Zijlstra

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