From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752993AbXGFWoS (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:44:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751177AbXGFWoI (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:44:08 -0400 Received: from 41-052.adsl.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.41.52]:39258 "EHLO mail.esperi.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750861AbXGFWoG (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:44:06 -0400 To: Mike Frysinger Cc: List util-linux-ng , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1 References: <8CYT9-4Ou-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <20070705205523.GA15202@suse.de> <87zm2aav9h.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix> <200707060319.36460.vapier@gentoo.org> From: Nix Emacs: because idle RAM is the Devil's playground. Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:43:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200707060319.36460.vapier@gentoo.org> (Mike Frysinger's message of "Fri, 6 Jul 2007 03:19:35 -0400") Message-ID: <87myy9b1aq.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.5-b27 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-INFN-TO-Metrics: hades 1233; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 6 Jul 2007, Mike Frysinger spake thusly: > On Friday 06 July 2007, Nix wrote: >> On 5 Jul 2007, Bernhard Walle stated: >> > While cmake itself isn't the problem, >> > often, it also depends on the version of cmake that is installed. The >> > good idea about auto* tools is the idea that you don't need to install >> > any tools to build, just to develop. A POSIX shell and Perl should be >> > installed everywhere ... >> >> You don't need Perl to run configure scripts, either, and it's only >> recently that it started requiring a POSIX shell rather than something >> of the calibre of Solaris's /bin/sh. > > since when does autotools require a POSIX shell ? autoconf 2.55's NEWS said: ,---- | - shell functions | | Shell functions will gradually be introduced, probably starting with | Autotest. If you know machines which are in use that you suspect | *not* to support shell functions, please run the test suite of | Autoconf 2.55 on it, and report the results to | bug-autoconf@gnu.org. `---- but actually I'm not sure if this was ever done. That's not actually `a POSIX shell' I suppose, but it's also not going to work on prehistoric shells like Solaris's 1980-vintage /bin/sh. -- `... in the sense that dragons logically follow evolution so they would be able to wield metal.' --- Kenneth Eng's colourless green ideas sleep furiously