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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Kenton Varda <kenton@sandstorm.io>
Cc: Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com>,
	gnome-os-list@gnome.org,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	mclasen@redhat.com,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] devpts: Add ptmx_uid and ptmx_gid options
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:50:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oal4e5hu.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOP=4wggpXOC4qLWgNAdw7Ws4vtYR=hscNYzDCfby+-VUxhoQg@mail.gmail.com> (Kenton Varda's message of "Thu, 28 May 2015 13:17:30 -0700")

Kenton Varda <kenton@sandstorm.io> writes:

> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 12:14 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>
>>> > Where does the second namespace enter into this?
>>>
>>> Step a.  Create create a user namespace where uid 0 is mapped to your
>>> real uid, and set up your sandbox (aka mount /dev/pts and everything
>>> else).
>>>
>>> Step b.  Create a nested user namespace where your uid is identity
>>> mapped and run your desktop application.  You can even drop all caps
>>> in
>>> your namespace.
>>
>> Just tried this. Its not the nicest, and it doubles the number of
>> namespaces in action for each sandbox, but it does work.
>
> How much overhead is involved in each user namespace?

sizeof(struct user_namespace).

> Is there any system-wide limit on total namespaces, other than RAM? 

There is a system-wide maximum depth, but not count.

>  Is there
> (non-negligible) CPU overhead for each syscall seeking permissions in
> the namespace?

ns_capable(ns, X) in some cases can walk up the from a starting user
namespace to the initial user.  (The only non-constant operation I am
aware of).  However unless the user namespace depth is deep it should
still take a negligible amount of time.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-28 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-21  1:04 Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-26 19:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-27  9:03   ` James Bottomley
2015-03-31  7:57     ` Alexander Larsson
2015-03-31 13:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-31 13:07       ` James Bottomley
2015-03-31 13:11         ` Alexander Larsson
2015-03-31 13:12         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-31 13:23           ` James Bottomley
2015-03-31 13:44             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-31 13:55               ` James Bottomley
2015-03-31 13:59                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-03-31 14:08                   ` James Bottomley
2015-03-31 14:17                     ` Alexander Larsson
2015-04-02 10:12                       ` James Bottomley
2015-04-02 14:06                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-02 14:29                           ` Alexander Larsson
2015-04-02 14:33                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-04-02 15:49                               ` Serge Hallyn
2015-04-02 18:27                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-27 21:32                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-28 16:44                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 17:01                                     ` Alexander Larsson
2015-05-28 17:14                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-28 17:35                                         ` Alexander Larsson
2015-05-28 20:06                                         ` Alexander Larsson
2015-05-28 20:17                                           ` Kenton Varda
2015-05-28 21:50                                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2015-05-28 17:30                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-28 19:42                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-03-08  4:59                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-08  9:16                                             ` Alexander Larsson
2016-03-08 18:17                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-18 21:04   ` Alexander Larsson

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