From: Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'austin-group-l@opengroup.org'" <austin-group-l@opengroup.org>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: The naming of at()s is a difficult matter
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:41:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oe1cmyfz.fsf@rho.meyering.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43EEACA7.5020109@zytor.com> (H. Peter Anvin's message of "Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:33:59 -0800")
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> I have noticed that the new ...at() system calls are named in what
> appears to be a completely haphazard fashion. In Unix system calls,
> an f- prefix means it operates on a file descriptor; the -at suffix (a
> prefix would have been more consistent, but oh well) similarly
> indicates it operates on a (directory fd, pathname) pair.
>
> However, some system calls, in particular fchownat, futimesat,
> fchmodat and faccessat add the f- prefix for what appears to be
> absolutely no good reason. Logically, these system calls should be
> named chownat, utimesat, chmodat, and accessat.
>
> I understand some of this braindamage comes from Solaris, but some of
> these calls do not. We should avoid it if at all possible, and I
> would recommend at least introducing aliases with the sane names.
This has bothered me, too.
But what would the semantics be? Using an alias named `chownat'
to get lchown-like functionality (with the AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW flag)
seems undesirable.
If we're considering aliases,
then how about a pair of `f'-less names for each of the f*at
names. E.g., chownat and lchownat corresponding to the use (or not)
of AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW in the last parameter of an fchownat function call.
Here's some code from coreutils/lib/openat.h:
/* Using these function names makes application code
slightly more readable than it would be with
fchownat (..., 0) or fchownat (..., AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW). */
static inline int
chownat (int fd, char const *file, uid_t owner, gid_t group)
{
return fchownat (fd, file, owner, group, 0);
}
static inline int
lchownat (int fd, char const *file, uid_t owner, gid_t group)
{
return fchownat (fd, file, owner, group, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW);
}
static inline int
chmodat (int fd, char const *file, mode_t mode)
{
return fchmodat (fd, file, mode, 0);
}
static inline int
lchmodat (int fd, char const *file, mode_t mode)
{
return fchmodat (fd, file, mode, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW);
}
[Note that afaik, faccessat is available only in glibc so far. ]
Unfortunately, this doesn't generalize as well to faccessat,
which has four (not just two) possible values of its last parameter.
Those correspond to settings of the AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW and AT_EACCESS
bits. AT_EACCESS means faccessat checks for access by the effective IDs
rather than by the real IDs.
With faccessat, we'd need 4 different names, e.g.,
elaccessat or leaccessat
ulaccessat or luaccessat
eaccessat
uaccessat
Personally, I do find it easier to read names like lstatat and statat
with only one extra argument (the file descriptor) than fstatat (...
with 0 or AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW. With fstatat uses, it seems like I always
have to convert mentally that the presence of AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW means
that a particular use acts like lstat.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-12 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-12 3:33 H. Peter Anvin
2006-02-12 10:37 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-12 17:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-02-13 14:09 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-02-14 8:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 15:09 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 15:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-02-14 16:13 ` Matthew Frost
2006-02-14 17:00 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 17:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-02-14 18:07 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-02-14 18:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 18:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-12 14:41 ` Jim Meyering [this message]
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