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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>,
	anna-maria@linutronix.de, frederic@kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@kernel.org,
	Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] timers/nohz: Annotate lockless accesses to got_idle_tick
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 14:21:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87qzici6yb.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260920085434.2918331-1-kunwu.chan@gmail.com>

On Sun, Sep 20 2026 at 16:54, Kunwu Chan wrote:
> tick_sched_do_timer(), called from the tick interrupt handler, sets
> ts->got_idle_tick when a tick fires while the CPU is idle.  The idle
> path reads and clears it via tick_nohz_idle_got_tick() to detect
> whether the tick handler has run.
>
> The flag is accessed locklessly from hardirq and task context.  A
> concurrent set can be overwritten by the clear.
>
> Use READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() to annotate the lockless accesses.

The following scenarios still happen:

A)

              if (READ_ONCE(got_tick))      // reads true
-> interrupt       
       WRITE_ONCE(got_tick, true);   

                   WRITE_ONCE(got_tick, false);

B)

              if (READ_ONCE(got_tick))      // reads false
-> interrupt       
       WRITE_ONCE(got_tick, true);   

#A is harmless because got_tick is already true and #B is harmless as
 well because the got_tick read result is only a hint for the next idle
 invocation.

As this is stricly per CPU the READ/WRITE_ONCE() does not change
anything in terms of ordering. So what exactly is solved by the
READ/WRITE_ONCE()?

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-29 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-20  8:54 Kunwu Chan
2026-09-29 12:21 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-09-30 20:00   ` Paul E. McKenney

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