From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexey Gladkov <legion@kernel.org>, Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 13:47:05 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfu3b7wm.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiS2P+p9VJXV_fWd5ntashbA0QVzJx15rTnWOCAAVJU_Q@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Tue, 4 Jan 2022 10:44:59 -0800")
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 2:54 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> if (signal->flags & (SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT | SIGNAL_GROUP_COREDUMP)) {
>> - if (!(signal->flags & SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT))
>> - return sig == SIGKILL;
>> + struct core_state *core_state = signal->core_state;
>> + if (core_state) {
>
> This change is very confusing.
>
> Also, why does it do that 'signal->core_state->dumper.task', when we
> already know that it's the same as 'signal->group_exit_task'?
>
> The only thing that sets 'signal->core_state' also sets
> 'signal->group_exit_task', and the call chain has set both to the same
> task.
>
> So the code is odd and makes little sense.
As you say signal->group_exit_task, and core_state->dumper.task point to
the same task. So it may be a little silly when viewed independently of
everything else to use core_state->dumper.task instead of
group_exit_task as it is an extra cache line dereference.
The thing is signal->group_exit_task is only used by coredumps currently
as a flag to tell signal_group_exit to return true. It is exec that
actually uses signal->group_exit_task in conjunction with
signal->notify_count to wake itself up.
Using a pointer as a flag and not for it's value. Having different
semantics for who sets the pointer. All of those are weird enough
I just want to make signal->group_exit_task to go away.
By using core_state->dumper.task I was able to make
signal->group_exit_task exclusive to the exec case in the following
changes, and to rename it signal->group_exec_task so no one gets
confused what the field is for.
> But what's even more odd is how it
>
> (a) sends the SIGKILL to somebody else
>
> (b) does *NOT* send SIGKILL to itself
>
> Now, (a) is explained in the commit message. The intent is to signal
> the core dumper.
Which is the a specific thread of the target process, and it is
the only thread running of the target process.
> But (b) looks like a fundamental change in semantics. The target of
> the SIGKILL is still running, might be in some loop in the kernel that
> wants to be interrupted by a fatal signal, and you expressly disabled
> the code that would send that fatal signal.
>
> If I send SIGKILL to thread A, then that SIGKILL had *better* be
> delivered. To thread A, which may be in a "mutex_lock_killable()" or
> whatever else.
>
> The fact that thread B may be in the process of trying to dump core
> doesn't change that at all, as far as I can see.
>
> So I think this patch is fundamentally buggy and wrong. Or at least
> needs much more explanation of why you'd not send SIGKILL to the
> target thread.
If you look at zap_threads. You can observe that it takes the siglock,
sets SIGNAL_GROUP_COREDUMP, and sets signal->core_state and in
zap_process makes SIGKILL pending is the per-task sigset, and calls
signal_wake_up on every task.
This case in prepare_signal happens after that. After every task
has been told to die, and __fatal_signal_pending is true for all of
them if they have not reached do_exit yet.
If you look in zap_threads you will see that the core dumping thread
clears TIF_SIGPENDING, and in general makes fatal_signal_pending false
for itself. But keep in mind that this thread because it is dumping
core is already on the path to do_exit. It has already processed a
fatal signal.
So in the special case I only worry about the dumping task as it is the
only task after zap_threads that does not have fatal_signal_pending.
This is different than the ordinary case of delivering SIGKILL
where complete_signal makes SIGKILL pending in the per-task sigset
of every task in the process.
Currently I suspect changing wait_event_uninterruptible to
wait_event_killable, is causing problems.
Or perhaps there is some reason tasks that have already entered do_exit
need to have fatal_signal_pending set. (The will have
fatal_signal_pending set up until they enter get_signal which calls
do_group_exit which calls do_exit).
Which is why I am trying to reproduce the reported failure so I can get
the kernel to tell me what is going on. If this is not resolved quickly
I won't send you this change, and I will pull it out of linux-next.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-04 19:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 193+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-08 20:17 [PATCH 00/10] Removal of most do_exit calls Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 01/10] exit/s390: Remove dead reference to do_exit from copy_thread Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-12 17:48 ` Heiko Carstens
2021-12-13 14:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 4:25 ` Al Viro
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 02/10] exit: Add and use make_task_dead Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 5:01 ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 20:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 21:53 ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-05 23:34 ` Al Viro
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 03/10] exit: Move oops specific logic from do_exit into make_task_dead Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 5:48 ` Al Viro
2022-01-06 7:08 ` Al Viro
2022-01-07 3:42 ` Al Viro
2022-01-07 19:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-07 18:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-17 8:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-17 12:15 ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-17 13:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-17 13:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-17 13:27 ` [PATCH] microblaze: remove CONFIG_SET_FS Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-09 13:50 ` Michal Simek
2022-02-09 13:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-09 14:03 ` Michal Simek
2022-02-09 14:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-09 14:44 ` Michal Simek
2022-02-09 14:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-09 23:31 ` Stafford Horne
2022-02-11 0:17 ` Stafford Horne
2022-02-11 16:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-11 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-11 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-11 21:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 22:21 ` Stafford Horne
2022-02-14 7:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 7:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 16:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 04/10] exit: Stop poorly open coding do_task_dead in make_task_dead Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 5:58 ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 22:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 05/10] exit: Stop exporting do_exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 6:02 ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 22:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 06/10] exit: Implement kthread_exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-07 2:27 ` Al Viro
2022-01-08 18:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-08 22:44 ` David Laight
2022-01-10 15:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-09 3:27 ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 15:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 07/10] exit: Rename module_put_and_exit to module_put_and_kthread_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 08/10] exit: Rename complete_and_exit to kthread_complete_and_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 09/10] kthread: Ensure struct kthread is present for all kthreads Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-22 18:19 ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-22 18:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-22 18:46 ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-22 23:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23 0:37 ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-23 1:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-12-23 3:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23 5:19 ` [PATCH] kthread: Generalize pf_io_worker so it can point to struct kthread Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-07 3:59 ` [PATCH 09/10] kthread: Ensure struct kthread is present for all kthreads Al Viro
2022-01-08 18:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 10/10] exit/kthread: Move the exit code for kernel threads into struct kthread Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-07 3:22 ` Al Viro
2021-12-13 22:50 ` [PATCH 0/8] signal: Cleanup of the signal->flags Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:30 ` [PATCH 00/17] exit: Making task exiting a first class concept Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32 ` [PATCH 01/17] exit: Remove profile_task_exit & profile_munmap Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 7:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-07 3:48 ` Al Viro
2022-01-08 16:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32 ` [PATCH 02/17] exit: Coredumps reach do_group_exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32 ` [PATCH 03/17] exit: Fix the exit_code for wait_task_zombie Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32 ` [PATCH 04/17] exit: Use the correct exit_code in /proc/<pid>/stat Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 05/17] taskstats: Cleanup the use of task->exit_code Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 06/17] ptrace: Remove second setting of PT_SEIZED in ptrace_attach Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 07/17] ptrace: Remove unused regs argument from ptrace_report_syscall Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 08/17] ptrace/m68k: Stop open coding ptrace_report_syscall Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-10 15:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-10 16:20 ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 16:25 ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 17:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-10 20:37 ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 21:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11 1:33 ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-11 22:42 ` Finn Thain
2022-01-12 0:20 ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-12 3:32 ` Finn Thain
2022-01-12 7:54 ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-12 7:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 8:05 ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 09/17] ptrace: Move setting/clearing ptrace_message into ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 10/17] ptrace: Return the signal to continue with from ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 11/17] ptrace: Separate task->ptrace_code out from task->exit_code Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 12/17] signal: Compute the process exit_code in get_signal Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 13/17] signal: Make individual tasks exiting a first class concept Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 14/17] signal: Remove zap_other_threads Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 15/17] signal: Add JOBCTL_WILL_EXIT to mark exiting tasks Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 16/17] signal: Record the exit_code when an exit is scheduled Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 17/17] signal: Always set SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT on process exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 0:13 ` [PATCH 00/13] Removing tracehook.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 01/13] ptrace: Move ptrace_report_syscall into ptrace.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:19 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 02/13] ptrace/arm: Rename tracehook_report_syscall report_syscall Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:20 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 03/13] ptrace: Create ptrace_report_syscall_{entry,exit} in ptrace.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:26 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 04/13] ptrace: Remove arch_syscall_{enter,exit}_tracehook Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:29 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 05/13] ptrace: Remove tracehook_signal_handler Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:29 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 06/13] task_work: Remove unnecessary include from posix_timers.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:30 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 07/13] task_work: Introduce task_work_pending Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 21:05 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-09 23:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 23:26 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-09 22:31 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 08/13] task_work: Call tracehook_notify_signal from get_signal on all architectures Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-10 5:57 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-10 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-10 20:00 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 09/13] task_work: Decouple TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL and task_work Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:36 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 10/13] signal: Move set_notify_signal and clear_notify_signal into sched/signal.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:36 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 11/13] resume_user_mode: Remove #ifdef TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME in set_notify_resume Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:39 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 12/13] resume_user_mode: Move to resume_user_mode.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:54 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24 ` [PATCH 13/13] tracehook: Remove tracehook.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:55 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 21:05 ` [PATCH 00/13] Removing tracehook.h Jens Axboe
2022-03-15 23:18 ` [PATCH 0/2] ptrace: Making the ptrace changes atomic Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-15 23:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] ptrace: Move setting/clearing ptrace_message into ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-17 17:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-03-17 19:10 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-18 14:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-18 17:20 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-15 23:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] ptrace: Return the signal to continue with from ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-17 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-03-17 18:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-18 19:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-03-18 14:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-17 19:13 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-18 14:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-18 17:28 ` Kees Cook
2022-03-28 23:56 ` [GIT PULL] ptrace: Cleanups for v5.18 Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-29 0:03 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-29 0:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29 0:53 ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-03-29 0:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29 3:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-29 4:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29 0:35 ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-09 0:15 ` [PATCH 00/13] Removing tracehook.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04 6:30 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-04 16:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 19:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 21:39 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-08 18:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-08 18:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] signal: Have prepare_signal detect coredumps using signal->core_state Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-08 18:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] signal: Make coredump handling explicit in complete_signal Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11 8:59 ` [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-11 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-18 17:30 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-18 17:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-18 18:01 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-04 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 19:47 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2022-01-08 19:13 ` Heiko Carstens
[not found] ` <87ilurwjju.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
[not found] ` <87o84juwhg.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
2022-01-10 23:00 ` Olivier Langlois
2022-01-11 17:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11 18:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-15 0:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-15 19:23 ` Olivier Langlois
2022-01-17 16:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-17 18:46 ` io_uring truncating coredumps Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-18 4:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-26 15:06 ` [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case Olivier Langlois
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 2/8] signal: Drop signals received after a fatal signal has been processed Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 3/8] signal: Have the oom killer detect coredumps using signal->core_state Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 4/8] signal: During coredumps set SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT in zap_process Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 5/8] signal: Remove SIGNAL_GROUP_COREDUMP Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 6/8] coredump: Stop setting signal->group_exit_task Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 7/8] signal: Rename group_exit_task group_exec_task Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 8/8] signal: Remove the helper signal_group_exit Eric W. Biederman
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